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<p>Yes, indeed; and in fact, the iambicity of southern Sino-Tibetan
and of western Indonesia form part of the same large geographical
zone of iambicity. (Himmelmann and Kaufman presented a paper on
this at the recent ICAL conference.)</p>
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<div class="">Similar to what David mentions, although it isn’t a
single language, within Sino-Tibetan there is a similar
geographic difference, with northern languages tending towards
trochaic and southern languages tending towards iambic, which we
assume was due to influence from the Austro-Asiatic languages in
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<p class="">In colloquial Malay/Indonesian, some
dialects are iambic while others are trochaic; with
just a few exceptions this follows a geographical
pattern, with final stress to the west, penultimate
stress to the east. So presumably the kind of shift
you are looking for must have taken place here, in the
course of the diversification of Malay/Indonesian
dialects.</p>
<p class="">As for the directionality of the shift:
given that Malay originated in the western part of the
archipelago, where foot structure is iambic, one might
speculate that this was the original pattern, and that
as the language spread eastwards, some varieties
switched to trochaic, most likely under the influence
of the local substrate languages, many of which have
trochaic structure.</p>
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