<div dir="ltr">While completely agreeing with Juergen's "an adposition governs/selects for a particular nominal case marker", it's fun to bring in Tagalog.<div><br></div><div>The preposition para 'for' governs a dative case marker, sa.</div><div>The dative case marker sa 'DAT' governs a dative NP, which is realised (if pronominal) with a dative pronoun.</div><div><br></div><div>'for me':</div><div><br></div><div>para sa akin</div><div>for DAT 1SG.DAT</div><div><br></div><div>So, the beneficiary is, if you like, triple marked. But, better, a preposition governs a particular case, and case information is marked through the NP, if possible.</div><div><br></div><div>-Mark</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 24 Aug 2021 at 23:06, Randy J. LaPolla <<a href="mailto:randy.lapolla@gmail.com">randy.lapolla@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">Dear Farhad,<div>If you are not limiting your use of “marking” to morphology, Mandarin Chinese has a sort of double marking of such phrases, where you often have a serial verb structure with the first verb representing the manner of motion (‘walk’, climb’, ‘run’, etc.), the second the sort of direction of motion (‘enter', ‘arrive', ‘exit'), followed by a location plus a locational noun such as ’top’, ‘bottom’, as in the following natural example:</div><div><br></div><div><font size="5"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">总有蚂蚁</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">爬到桌子上 </span></font></div><div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">zǒng yǒu mǎyǐ pá dào zhuōzi shàng.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">always have ants climb arrive table top</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span>‘There are always ants climbing onto (my) table.</span></span><span>’</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Each part of the structure has a different function, so I don’t know if this counts as double marking, or just separating the marking into several components.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span><br></span></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span>Hope this helps.</span></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span><br></span></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span>Randy</span></span></div><div>
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 23 Aug 2021, at 9:52 PM, Farhad Moezzipour <<a href="mailto:fmp59i@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank">fmp59i@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr">Dear all,<div><br></div><div>Is anyone aware of a language where the goal in a motion event is doubly marked? This happens in colloquial Persian:</div><div><br></div><div>(1) <i>Ta xune=ro tu 20 </i>dæqiqe<i> dæv-id-æm</i>.</div><div> until house=POSP in 20 minute run-PST-1SG</div><div> 'I ran the distance to the house in 20 minutes.' </div><div><br></div><div>The goal is marked once by the preposition and once with the postposition RA, which is basically an object maker in Modern Persian. The given example is also possible without RA, as in (2). </div><div><br></div><div>(2) <i>Ta xune 20 </i>dæqiqe<i> dæv-id-æm</i>.</div><div> until house 20 minute run-PST-1SG </div><div> 'I ran toward the house for 20 minutes.' </div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Farhad</div><div><br></div><div> </div><div><br><div> </div></div></div>
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