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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/12/2021 21:59, David Gil wrote:<br>
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      <p>Mohammad,</p>
      <p>You're very welcome.  Perhaps I could ask you a question of my
        own about the Hamedani dialect of Persian. I am interested in
        how you ask "What is your name?".  In Standard Persian I believe
        it is something like "Esme chi ache", or maybe "Esme to chie". 
        What would the equivalent sentence look like in Hamedani?</p>
      <p>Thanks,</p>
      <p>David</p>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/12/2021 21:52, <a
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        <div dir="auto">Dear David,
          <div dir="auto">Thank you very much. It seems that what you
            say about Malay is very similar to what we found in this
            Persian variety.</div>
          <div dir="auto">Best</div>
          <div dir="auto">Mohammad</div>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On 16 Dec 2021 15:26, David Gil <a
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                <p>Dear Mohammad,</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p>Malay/Indonesian has some of the things you are
                  searching for.</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p>1.  In several varieties of Malay/Indonesian, there
                  is a particle (Standard Malay/Indonesian <i>kah</i>,
                  Papuan Malay <i>ka</i>, Kupang Malay <i>ko</i>)
                  whose variegated functions include (a) forming a polar
                  question; and (b) marking a content question, by
                  cooccuring with a WH word.  The latter would be an
                  example of double marking of content questions.</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p>2.  The verb <i>coba</i>, whose basic meaning is
                  'try', is also commonly used as a polite imperative
                  marker, and this latter use is also generalized to
                  content questions, where it seems to mean something
                  like "please try and answer this question".  I believe
                  <i>coba</i> does not occur in polar questions (though
                  I would have to double check this).</p>
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                <p>In principle, the above two strategies should be able
                  to cooccur with a WH word to yield what would be
                  triple marking of content questions.  However I was
                  not able to find any clear cut examples of this in our
                  corpus, and I suspect that such triple marking might
                  be precluded by the contradictory semantic values of
                  the two forms, the particle <i>kah/ka/ko</i> being
                  associated with a basic meaning of uncertainty, while
                  <i>coba</i> seeming to maintain its implicit
                  imperative function.  But this requires further
                  thought ...</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p>David</p>
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                <div>On 16/12/2021 09:33, mohammad rasekh wrote:<br>
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                      <div dir="ltr" style="font-family:'garamond' ,
                        'new york' , 'times' , serif">Dear all,</div>
                      <div dir="ltr" style="font-family:'garamond' ,
                        'new york' , 'times' , serif">A student of mine
                        while gathering a spoken corpus for a
                        geographical variety of Persian has noticed that
                        this variety is using a fixed form of the verb
                        to see, 'bin-i' (see-2SG) as polar question
                        marker (1) and in content questions (2,3) along
                        with wh-word:</div>
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                      <div dir="ltr" style="font-family:'garamond' ,
                        'new york' , 'times' , serif">1) bin-i       
                         miy-<i><span
                            style="font-size:10pt;line-height:115%;font-family:'times
                            new roman' , serif;color:black">ād?</span></i></div>
                      <div dir="ltr" style="font-family:'garamond' ,
                        'new york' , 'times' , serif">    see-2SG 
                         come-3SG</div>
                      <div dir="ltr" style="font-family:'garamond' ,
                        'new york' , 'times' , serif">'Does s/he come?'</div>
                      <div dir="ltr" style="font-family:'garamond' ,
                        'new york' , 'times' , serif"><br>
                      </div>
                      <div dir="ltr" style="font-family:'garamond' ,
                        'new york' , 'times' , serif">2) bin-i       
                        koj<i><span
                            style="font-size:10pt;line-height:115%;font-family:'times
                            new roman' , serif;color:black">ā-st?</span></i></div>
                      <div dir="ltr" style="font-family:'garamond' ,
                        'new york' , 'times' , serif"><i><span
                            style="font-size:10pt;line-height:115%;font-family:'times
                            new roman' , serif;color:black">   
                             see-2SG     where-be.3SG</span></i></div>
                      <div dir="ltr" style="font-family:'garamond' ,
                        'new york' , 'times' , serif"><i><span
                            style="font-size:10pt;line-height:115%;font-family:'times
                            new roman' , serif;color:black">    'Where
                            is s/he?'</span></i></div>
                      <div dir="ltr" style="font-family:'garamond' ,
                        'new york' , 'times' , serif"><i><span
                            style="font-size:10pt;line-height:115%;font-family:'times
                            new roman' , serif;color:black"><br>
                          </span></i></div>
                      <div dir="ltr" style="font-family:'garamond' ,
                        'new york' , 'times' , serif"> <span
                          style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0
                          );font-family:'garamond' , 'new york' ,
                          'times' , serif;font-size:16px">3) bin-i     
                            <i><span
                              style="font-size:10pt;line-height:115%;font-family:'times
                              new roman' , serif;color:black">ši       
                               <i><span
                                  style="font-size:10pt;line-height:115%;font-family:'times
                                  new roman' , serif;color:black">šod-e?</span></i></span></i></span><br>
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                      <div dir="ltr" style="font-family:'garamond' ,
                        'new york' , 'times' , serif"><span
                          style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0
                          );font-family:'garamond' , 'new york' ,
                          'times' , serif;font-size:16px"><i><span
                              style="font-size:10pt;line-height:115%;font-family:'times
                              new roman' , serif;color:black"><i><span
                                  style="font-size:10pt;line-height:115%;font-family:'times
                                  new roman' , serif;color:black">   
                                  see-2SG      what   become-3SG</span></i></span></i></span></div>
                      <div dir="ltr" style="font-family:'garamond' ,
                        'new york' , 'times' , serif"><span
                          style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0
                          );font-family:'garamond' , 'new york' ,
                          'times' , serif;font-size:16px"><i><span
                              style="font-size:10pt;line-height:115%;font-family:'times
                              new roman' , serif;color:black"><i><span
                                  style="font-size:10pt;line-height:115%;font-family:'times
                                  new roman' , serif;color:black"> 
                                   'What happened?'</span></i></span></i></span></div>
                      <div dir="ltr" style="font-family:'garamond' ,
                        'new york' , 'times' , serif"><span
                          style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0
                          );font-family:'garamond' , 'new york' ,
                          'times' , serif;font-size:16px"><i><span
                              style="font-size:10pt;line-height:115%;font-family:'times
                              new roman' , serif;color:black"><i><span
                                  style="font-size:10pt;line-height:115%;font-family:'times
                                  new roman' , serif;color:black"><br>
                                </span></i></span></i></span></div>
                      <div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0
                          );font-family:'garamond' , 'new york' ,
                          'times' , serif;font-size:16px">Two questions:</span></div>
                      <div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0
                          );font-family:'garamond' , 'new york' ,
                          'times' , serif;font-size:16px">First: Is
                          there any other language which uses a polar
                          question marker originating from verb?</span></div>
                      <div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0
                          );font-family:'garamond' , 'new york' ,
                          'times' , serif;font-size:16px">Second: Is
                          double marking of content questions attested?</span></div>
                      <div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0
                          );font-family:'garamond' , 'new york' ,
                          'times' , serif;font-size:16px"><br>
                        </span></div>
                      <div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0
                          );font-family:'garamond' , 'new york' ,
                          'times' , serif;font-size:16px">All the best,</span></div>
                      <div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0
                          );font-family:'garamond' , 'new york' ,
                          'times' , serif;font-size:16px">Mohammad </span><br>
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                          );font-family:'garamond' , 'new york' ,
                          'times' , serif;font-size:16px"><br>
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                          <div><font size="1" face="verdana, helvetica,
                              sans-serif" color="#4c76a2">Mohammad
                              Rasekh-Mahand </font></div>
                          <div><font size="1" face="verdana, helvetica,
                              sans-serif" color="#4c76a2">Linguistics
                              Department,</font></div>
                          <div><font size="1" face="verdana, helvetica,
                              sans-serif" color="#4c76a2">Bu-Ali Sina
                              University, </font></div>
                          <div><font size="1" face="verdana, helvetica,
                              sans-serif" color="#4c76a2">Hamedan, Iran.</font></div>
                          <div dir="ltr"><font size="1" face="verdana,
                              helvetica, sans-serif" color="#4c76a2">Postal
                              Code: 6517838695  </font></div>
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                              href="https://basu.academia.edu/MohammadRasekhmahand"
                              moz-do-not-send="true"><font size="1"
                                face="verdana, helvetica, sans-serif"
                                color="#4c76a2">https://basu.academia.edu/MohammadRasekhmahand</font></a><br>
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Department of Linguistic and Cultural Evolution
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Senior Scientist (Associate)
Department of Linguistic and Cultural Evolution
Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology
Deutscher Platz 6, Leipzig, 04103, Germany

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Department of Linguistic and Cultural Evolution
Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology
Deutscher Platz 6, Leipzig, 04103, Germany

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