<div dir="ltr">Since the discussion started with an Iranian variety, areal influence should probably be considered, and might more relevant than general typological parallels. <div><br></div><div>I am thinking of the main Turkic 'as soon as' construction:<div><i><br></i></div><div><i>gel-ir gel-mez...<br></i></div><div>come-evt come-neg.evt </div><div>"As soon as he arrived" (evt = eventual, a general imperfective tense, aka 'aorist')</div><div><br></div><div>It has been copied in a number of non-Turkic languages of the Caucasus.</div><div><br></div><div>GA</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 1:22 PM David Gil <<a href="mailto:gil@shh.mpg.de">gil@shh.mpg.de</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Dear Mohammad, everyone,</p>
<p>Adding Hebrew to the list: it has expletive negation in until
clauses, but as far as I can tell not in before clauses.</p>
<p>David<br>
</p>
<p><br>
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<p><br>
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<div>On 12/01/2022 13:31, Bernhard Wälchli
wrote:<br>
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<p>Dear Mohammad,</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Dear all<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Below there is some selected literature on
expletive negation. In temporal clauses, negation is common
especially in
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">=’before’: extremely widespread
cross-linguistically, see e.g. Hetterle’s (2015) typological
monograph.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">=’until’: seems to be very restricted
areally, mainly Eastern Europe & Caucasus and South Asia
(Indo-Aryan and Indo-sphere Sino-Tibetan), but also Paumarí
(maybe due to influence from Portuguese
<i>enquanto...não</i> ?).
In Eastern Europe and in Indo-Aryan, this seems to be a
parallel rather recent development (i.e. not going back to
Indo-European). An interesting question is how the possible
areal relationship between modern Indo-Aryan and Indo-sphere
Sino-Tibetan looks like: “as long as not” for ‘until’ is very
common in some Sino-Tibetan languages. I think it is an
interesting question as to what extent this may be due to
contact with modern Indo-Aryan languages.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">=”as soon as”: and there seems to be least
typological research about this, but it is probably not at all
uncommon with different sorts of constructions with negation
strategies in “as soon as”, as e.g. in Turkish the -r -mez
converb construction
<i>ben oturur oturmaz
telefon </i><i><span>ç</span>ald</i><i><span>ı</span></i><span>
‘as soon as I sat down, the telephone rang’ “I sitting.down
not.sitting.down telefon rang” (Lewis 2000: 182).</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I think part of the explanation of where
expletive negation can be found in temporal clauses is the
following:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">=Temporal clauses are temporal in two
senses: a) related to time and b) not-permanent. A temporal
clause cannot express a permanent state, but negation is not
compatible with temporal clauses – to the extent it is not
semantically phasal (“not yet” or “no longer”; cf. Heinämäki’s
1974: 183 example: <i>
When the lights were not on, we took a nap.</i> cannot mean
that the lights were never on, negation must be interpreted
phasally here, that the lights probably were on most for of
the time or at least quite often.). Which opens up for
negation markers being used for other senses than polarity in
temporal clauses.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">=Negation expresses non-identity rather
than identity. In temporal clauses, simultaneous is identity
of events and posterior and anterior is non-identity of
events. It would be utterly strange if negation was used in
simultaneous temporal clauses (‘when, while’), I do not know
of a single example of this and wonder whether there are any.
It is, however, very clearly understandable that negation can
be deployed for posterior meanings (‘before’ and ‘until’) and
for some anterior ones (especially ‘as soon as’) since
posterior and anterior is non-identity of times.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Some selected literature on expletive
negation:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Abels, Klaus.<span style="font-variant:small-caps"> 2005. </span>
“Expletive negation” in Russian: a conspiracy theory. <i>
Journal of Slavic Linguistics</i> 13.1, 5<span>–</span>74.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Espinal, M. Teresa. 2000. Expletive
negation, negative concord and feature checking.
<i><span style="background:white">Catalan Working Papers in
Linguistics</span></i><span style="background:white"> 8:
47-69.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="background:white">Greco, M. 2020. On the syntax
of surprise negation sentences: A case study on expletive
negation. <i>Natural Language & Linguistic Theory</i> <i>38</i>(3), 775–825.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Iordanskaja, L. & I. Mel’<span>č</span>uk. 2009. Semantics of
the Russian conjunction
<i>poka</i> ‘while, before,
until’. <span lang="DE">
In T. Berger, M. Giger, S. Kurt & I. Mendoza, Hg., <i>
Von grammatischen Kategorien und sprachlichen Weltbildern
– Die Slavia von der Sprachgeschichte bis zur Politsprache</i>.
</span>Wiener Slawistischer Almanach. Sonderband 73, 253<span>–</span>262.
München.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="background:white">Jin, Y. and
Koenig, J.P., 2020. A cross-linguistic study of expletive
negation. </span> Linguistic Typology 2021; 25(1): 39–78.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Wälchli, B. 2018/2019. ‘As long as’,’until’ and
‘before’ clauses.
<i>Baltic Linguistics</i>
<i>
9</i>, 141–236. <a href="http://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:1351829/FULLTEXT01.pdf" id="gmail-m_4202659753381850502LPlnk801723" target="_blank">
http://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:1351829/FULLTEXT01.pdf</a> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Further references<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:14.2pt"><span>Heinämäki, Orvokki Tellervo. 1974.
<i>Semantics of English
temporal clauses</i>. Ph.D. thesis. The University of
Texas at Austin.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:14.2pt"><span lang="DE">Hetterle, Katja. 2015.
<i>Adverbial Clauses in Cross-Linguistic Perspective</i>.
Berlin: De Grutyer Mouton.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:14.2pt"><span>Lewis, Geoffrey. 2000.
<i>Turkish Grammar</i>. 2<sup>nd</sup> edition. Oxford:
Oxford University Press.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:14.2pt"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Bernhard <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p>Dear Mohammad, <br>
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<p>Nigel is absolutely right about the restriction of the
negation to its first part (<i>ne</i>) in Françoise
French example. However French also has another
construction using the complete (discontinuous) negation
(<i>ne...pas</i>)
<span>and using a temporal adverb</span>, which seems to
me be to be even closer to your Persian example 1:</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<div><i>Il <b>n</b>’a/eut <b>pas</b> plus tôt répondu à
son supérieur <b>qu</b>’il a quitté la salle</i></div>
<div>he <b>NEG1</b> has/had <b>NEG2</b> more early
responded to his superior <b>COMP</b> he left the room<br>
</div>
<div><span>"No sooner had he responded to his superior
than he left the room" <br>
</span></div>
<div><b><span style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Symbol" lang="EN-US"><span style="font-size:10pt">~</span></span></b><b><span style="font-size:16pt" lang="EN-US"></span></b>
"as soon as he (had) responded to his superior, he left
the room "<br>
</div>
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<p><span>Two points seem important to me in this negative
construction <span>which emphasizes the immediacy of
the second event in relation to the first: the
presence of the temporal adverbial in the
comparative form
<i>plus tôt</i> 'sooner' and the complementizer (<i>que</i>).
The two (<i>no sooner E1 that E1</i>) form a
correlative structure.</span></span><br>
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<div>Best</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Stéphane<br>
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In relation to the French example it should perhaps
be added that in a clause with 'avant' only the
first part of the negation marker 'ne…pas' occurs.
Contrast 'elle n'arrive pas' and 'avant qu'elle
n'arrive', where the first is ungrammatical without
'pas' and the second is ungrammatical with 'pas' (or
so I was taught!).</div>
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Perhaps also relevant to Mohammad's question is the
use of the Latin negative purposive complementizer
<i>ne</i> 'in order that … not' as the marker of the
complement of a verb of fearing (cf the volume
referred to in an earlier post in this thread).<br>
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<p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" lang="EN-US">Dear Mohammad,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" lang="EN-US">this is a very
common phenomenon in (rather formal) French:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">avant qu’elle n’arrive, ….
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" lang="EN-US">before she arrives
(lit. before she does not arrive)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" lang="EN-US">Unfortunately, I
don’t have any reading recommendation on the
topic!</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Best,</span></p>
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<b>De la part de</b> mohammad rasekh<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> mardi 11 janvier 2022
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<b>Objet :</b> [Lingtyp] Negation marks
adverbial clauses</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Garamond,serif">Dear
All,</span></p>
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<div>
<p><span style="font-family:Garamond,serif">I
hope you have started a happy new year.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Garamond,serif">In
the corpus of one of my students in
Hamedani Persian (a variety spoken in
Hamedan, west of Iran), we have found some
adverbial clauses in which the verb is
marked by negative prefix, but it does not
mean negative. These adverbial clauses
mark Time (meaning 'as soon as') and
Reason, or both at the same time. Some
examples:</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Garamond,serif"> </span></p>
</div>
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<div>
<p style="line-height:200%"><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:200%;font-family:Garamond,serif;color:black" lang="EN-GB">1.</span><span style="font-size:7pt;line-height:200%;color:black" lang="EN-GB">
</span><i><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:200%;font-family:Garamond,serif;color:black;background:white" lang="EN-GB">i ke
kur
<b>na</b></span></i><b><i><span style="font-family:Garamond,serif">-šod</span></i></b><i><span style="font-family:Garamond,serif">, man diye
ruz-e xoš
na-didam</span></i><span style="font-family:Garamond,serif"></span></p>
<p style="line-height:200%"><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:200%" lang="EN-GB"> he
that blind
NEG-become, I anymore day-EZ happy
NEG-see-1SG
</span><span style="font-family:Garamond,serif"></span></p>
<div>
<p style="line-height:200%"><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:200%" lang="EN-GB"> As
soon as he got blind, I had no good
times.</span><span style="font-family:Garamond,serif"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p style="line-height:200%">2.<span style="font-size:7pt;line-height:200%"> </span><i><span lang="EN-US">das ke
<b>ne-mi-ke</b></span></i><b><i><span lang="EN-US">š</span></i></b><b><i><span lang="EN-US">-i</span></i></b><i><span lang="EN-US">
ru har</span></i><i><span lang="EN-US">č</span></i><i><span lang="EN-US">i,
x</span></i><i><span lang="EN-US">ā</span></i><i><span lang="EN-US">k-e</span></i><span style="font-family:Garamond,serif"></span></p>
<p style="line-height:200%"><span lang="EN-US"> hand
that
NEG-IND-touch-2SG
over everything,
dirty-BE.3SG</span><span style="font-family:Garamond,serif"></span></p>
<p style="line-height:200%"><span lang="EN-US"> As you touch
everything, it is dirty.</span><span style="font-family:Garamond,serif"></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p style="line-height:200%"><span style="font-family:Garamond,serif">I
wonder if there is any other
language in which the adverbial
clause is negative in form but not
in meaning. I searched to find some
evidence or some sources which
mention this, but I was not
successful. I appreciate your
comments.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p style="line-height:200%"><span style="font-family:Garamond,serif">Best
regards,</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p style="line-height:200%"><span style="font-family:Garamond,serif">Mohammad </span></p>
</div>
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<p><span style="font-family:Garamond,serif"> </span></p>
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