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<p>Dear Riccardo, dear all,</p>
<p>It may be relevant that the typical comparative examples with (")expletive(") negation are all comparison of inequality (which strengthens my point that "expletive" negation can have something to do with non-identity).</p>
<p>Does anybody have any example from any language with comparison of equality (i.e. "...as (tall) as...") with expletive negation?</p>
<p>In connection with comparison of inequality also note the well-known conjoined comparison type in Leon Stassen's typology</p>
<p>"<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51); font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px"> The language may employ antonymous predicates in the two clauses (‘good-bad’, ‘strong-weak’). Alternatively, the two predicates may show a positive-negative
polarity (‘good-not good’, ‘strong-not strong’).</span>"</p>
<p><a href="https://wals.info/chapter/121" class="OWAAutoLink" id="LPlnk274840" previewremoved="true">https://wals.info/chapter/121</a><br>
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<p>Best,</p>
<p>Bernhard</p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 12, 2022 1:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Guillaume Jacques<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lingtyp] Negation marks adverbial clauses</font>
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<div>Dear all,</div>
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<div>Besides temporal clauses introduced by <i>finché non </i>('until not'), Italian has at least another type of adverbial clauses in which (expletive?) negation may optionally occur, namely comparative clauses of the type
<i>Giovanni è più intelligente</i> <i>di quanto (non) lo sia Mario / di quanto (non) si pensi</i> ('Giovanni is more intelligent than Mario / than is thought').<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Guillaume Jacques <<a href="mailto:rgyalrongskad@gmail.com">rgyalrongskad@gmail.com</a>> escreveu no dia quarta, 12/01/2022 à(s) 12:39:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">=’until’: seems to be very restricted areally, mainly Eastern Europe & Caucasus and South Asia (Indo-Aryan and Indo-sphere Sino-Tibetan), but also Paumarí (maybe due to influence from Portuguese
<i>enquanto...não</i> ?). In Eastern Europe and in Indo-Aryan, this seems to be a parallel rather recent development (i.e. not going back to Indo-European). An interesting question is how the possible areal relationship between modern Indo-Aryan and Indo-sphere
Sino-Tibetan looks like: “as long as not” for ‘until’ is very common in some Sino-Tibetan languages. I think it is an interesting question as to what extent this may be due to contact with modern Indo-Aryan languages.</p>
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<div>In the Sino-Tibetan family, expletive negation in "until" clauses is not restricted to languages under Indo-Aryan influence, it is also found for instance in Gyalrongic, see (<a href="https://langsci-press.org/catalog/book/295" target="_blank">A grammar
of Japhug | Language Science Press (langsci-press.org)</a>, §25.3.2.3, p.1400.</div>
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