<div dir="ltr">Diyari, South Australia, is unlike the other Australian languages mentioned so far in that there is no bereavement suffix but rather the following bereavement lexical items and idioms:<div><br>kupa matyumatyu 'orphan when only the child's father is deceased'<br>kupa ngamathungka 'orphan when only the mother is deceased'<br>kupa ngamurru 'orphan when both father and mother are deceased'<br><br>and derivatives like:</div><div><br></div><div>ngamururibana 'to make an orphan' (by killing the father, after the mother has already died)</div><div><br></div><div>As well as idioms:</div><div><br></div>ngama kaldri 'bitter breast', i.e. a child that cannot drink at its mother's breast, because she has died.<div>ngama karla 'empty breasts', i.e. a woman whose new-born child has died</div><div><br><div>mangawarru 'widow, woman whose husband has died' 'widower, man whose wife has died'</div><div><br></div>karna karlapankarirna 'to suffer a bereavement'<div><br></div>karna warra 'half a man', i.e. man whose brother has died<div><br></div></div><div>Jiwarli, Western Australia has the following terms:</div><div><br></div><div>kungala 'man whose child has died'</div><div>kujarri 'woman whose child has died'</div><div><br></div><div>I hope this is of some use. Best wishes,</div><div><br></div><div>Peter</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 at 12:33, Claire Bowern <<a href="mailto:clairebowern@gmail.com">clairebowern@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Bardi (Nyulnyulan, NW Australia) also has a reasonably full set of bereavement terms. There's a table on p47 of my 2012 grammar. <div><br></div><div>Bowern. Claire (2012). <i>A Grammar of Bardi. </i>Mouton De Gruyter</div><div><br></div><div>Claire</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 7:09 AM Raffaele Simone <<a href="mailto:rsimone@os.uniroma3.it" target="_blank">rsimone@os.uniroma3.it</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks a lot to you (and
to everyone).</p>
<p>Raffaele</p>
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<div>Il 16/02/2022 12:52, Jean-Christophe
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<font face="Arial">Hi Raffaele,<br>
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Following up on David Nash's message: see the following
references for sets of bereavement terms in Umpila and
Yintyingka (Paman < Pama-Nyungan), including the ones you are
looking for. Hill (2018: 94) has further references to similar
terms in the same region.<br>
<br>
Hill, Clair. 2018. Person reference and interaction in
Umpila/Kuuku Ya'u narrative. PhD, Nijmegen & Leuven. p
94-95.<br>
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<a href="https://repository.ubn.ru.nl/handle/2066/199508" target="_blank"><https://repository.ubn.ru.nl/handle/2066/199508></a><br>
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Verstraete, JC & B Rigsby. 2015. A grammar and lexicon of
Yintyingka. Berlin: Mouton. (See index 'bereavement terms')<br>
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<a href="https://doi.org/10.1515/9781614519003" target="_blank">https://doi.org/10.1515/9781614519003</a><br>
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Jean-Christophe</font><br>
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<div>On 2/16/2022 12:39 PM, Raffaele
Simone wrote:<br>
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<p>My question was: do you know any language referring to<b>
"someone whose child [brother, sister, etc.] has died" </b>with
a specific lexical item (approx. correponding to widow and
orphan)? <br>
</p>
<p>RS<br>
</p>
<div>Il 16/02/2022 11:42, Sebastian
Nordhoff ha scritto:<br>
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2/16/22 11:36, Adam James Ross Tallman wrote: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hey Simone, <br>
<br>
My first question is what does "Someone to whom a child has
died" mean? </blockquote>
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X had a child. The child died. <br>
<br>
Cf widow: X had a spouse. The spouse died. <br>
orphan: X had a parent. The parent died. <br>
<br>
Best <br>
Sebastian <br>
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