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<p>Dear all,</p>
<p>on the non-numeral uses of numerals in various languages a very
important and instructive work is:</p>
<p><b>Bazzanella</b>, Carla (with R. Pugliese & E. Strudsholm),
<i>Numeri per parlare. Da "quattro chiacchiere" a "grazie mille".
</i>Bari & Rome: Laterza 2011.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Raffaele<br>
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<p>Il 22/02/2022 16:05, Paolo Ramat ha scritto:<br>
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<div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14.6667px">Dear
Amanda, </span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14.6667px">you are
asking for <<numeral expressions which typically
express larger, approximate numeric quantities (and encode
some kind of emotive function>>: not necessarily).</span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14.6667px">Here a
couple of Italian examples: </span><br>
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It. "nella manifestazione dei no-vax (= anti-covid vaccination
persons) c'era(no) <b>appena un centinaio</b> di persone (=
Germ.<i> kaum hundert Leute</i>). I jilets-jaunes erano <b>alcune
migliaia</b> (not emotive).
<div>You can have<b> centinaia / -o, migliaia/-o</b> but not
*cinquantinaio nor *diecinaio: what you really find is <b>cinquantina</b>,
<b>diecina </b>for the approximate numeric quantitity
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<div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Best,</span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Paolo</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Prof. Dr.
Paolo Ramat</span>
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<div>Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei, Socio
corrispondente<br>
<div>'Academia Europaea'</div>
<div>'Societas Linguistica Europaea', Honorary
Member</div>
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<div>Università di Pavia (retired)</div>
<div>Istituto Universitario di Studi Superiori (IUSS
Pavia) (retired)</div>
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ore 15:29 Amanda Kann <<a href="mailto:amanda.kann@su.se" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">amanda.kann@su.se</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Dear
typologists,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" lang="EN-US">(Apologies to those who have already seen
this query through LinguistList!)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black;background:white" lang="EN-US">I'm looking for corresponding expressions
(in any language) to the approximative numeral phrases
in the examples below – conventionalized numeral
expressions which typically express larger,
approximate numeric quantities and encode some kind of
emotive function.</span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><br>
<span style="background:white">I'm interested in the
composition and value of these numerals, as well as
their emphatic and emotive functions – if there are
other expressions in the numeral domain in your
language(s) that carry a similar illocutionary
force, I would love to hear about them as well!</span><br>
<br>
</span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black;background:white">Swedish
[swe]: (from Bloggmix 2013, accessed through </span><span style="font-size:11pt"><a href="http://spraakbanken.gu.se/korp" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:rgb(33,118,245);background:white;text-decoration:none">http://spraakbanken.gu.se/korp</span></a><span style="color:black;background:white">)</span><span style="color:black"><br>
<span style="background:white">Det finns nämligen
femtioelva sorters myror.</span><br>
</span></span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black;background:white" lang="EN-US">'There are actually many types of ants'
(lit. 'There are actually fifty-eleven types of ants')</span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><br>
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<span style="background:white">French [fra]: (Lavric
2010, </span></span><span style="font-size:11pt"><a href="https://doi.org/10.1163/9789004253247_008" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:rgb(33,118,245);background:white;text-decoration:none" lang="EN-US">https://doi.org/10.1163/9789004253247_008</span></a></span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black;background:white" lang="EN-US">)</span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><br>
<span style="background:white">Il n’y a pas trente-six
façons de voir la chose.</span><br>
<span style="background:white">'There aren't very many
ways of seeing the thing' (lit. 'There aren't
thirty-six ways of seeing the thing')</span><br>
<br>
<span style="background:white">Danish [dan]: (from
OpenSubtitles2018, accessed through </span></span><span style="font-size:11pt"><a href="http://opus.nlpl.eu/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:rgb(33,118,245);background:white;text-decoration:none" lang="EN-US">http://opus.nlpl.eu</span></a></span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black;background:white" lang="EN-US">)</span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><br>
<span style="background:white">Han fortalte mig 117
gange, at han ikke gjorde hende noget.</span><br>
<span style="background:white">'He told me a thousand
times that he didn't do anything to her' (lit. 'He
told me 117 times that he didn't do anything to
her')</span><br>
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<span style="background:white">English [eng]: (from
OpenSubtitles2018, accessed through </span></span><span style="font-size:11pt"><a href="http://opus.nlpl.eu/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:rgb(33,118,245);background:white;text-decoration:none" lang="EN-US">http://opus.nlpl.eu</span></a></span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black;background:white" lang="EN-US">)</span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"><br>
<span style="background:white">For the umpteenth time,
we are not getting a dog.</span><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" lang="EN-US">Thank you very much in advance for any
tips, examples or comments!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" lang="EN-US">Best regards,</span><span style="font-size:11pt" lang="EN-US"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" lang="EN-US">Amanda Kann</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,36,72)">____________________________________</span></b><span style="color:black"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,36,72)">Amanda
Kann</span></b><span style="color:black"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(28,49,74)">Institutionen
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(28,49,74)" lang="EN-US">Stockholms universitet | <i>Stockholm
University</i></span></b><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(28,49,74)" lang="EN-US"><br>
106 91 Stockholm </span><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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</span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://www.ling.su.se/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(149,79,114)" lang="EN-US">www.ling.su.se</span></a></span><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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vid Stockholms universitet</span></a></span><span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,36,72)"><br>
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