<div dir="ltr">Yahgan (a nearly extinct genetic isolate from Tierra del Fuego) has (or had) the form ma:nara (colon : marks tenseness of vowel preceding) which appears to denote 'more than (someone or something else), as when someone is in a rivalry situation, even if they don't know it. And it has an emotive connotation, since of the several example sentences given in the dictionary (which is all we have) has the speaker complaining about it.<div>hu:lu: sa ma:nara la:ride: amaim, hai ba:f ku:kan big/large you (sg.) much-more gathered-and-carried-in-a-skin-past tense fruit/fungus, I not same = What a lot of fruit/tree fungus you got and brought home, so much more than I did.' Etymologically it seems to be composed of mana- 'beyond' (the usual limits) plus a reduced form of wuru: 'more' (such reduced forms of wuru: appear in several internal reconstructions). sa we: ma:nara shabagu:da:gu:a You (sg.) may/will much-more be-happy/enjoy-for-onself-future 'You may or will enjoy yourself without me'. kv-ma:nara shabaguhrgaiagata, kvnjin ba:f matu:me:akonata me:am he (sg)- much-more happy/enjoy-progressive-for-self, he (sg.) not fear (for) self= 'He rejoices (though no one else does) and does not fear for himself or his own people'. </div><div><br></div><div>Jess Tauber<br><div><br><div><br></div><div> '</div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 1:57 PM Riccardo Giomi <<a href="mailto:rgiomi@campus.ul.pt">rgiomi@campus.ul.pt</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Dear Amanda and all,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">How about English bajillion/bazillion and its (near-)equivalents in other languages, such as Italian 'fantastilione', 'fantastiliardo' (a mashup of 'fantastico' and 'milione/miliardo', originally coined by some translator of Donald Duck comics)?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Apart from that, I tend to agree with Federica Mazzitelli and would add that, in Italian, basically any number above let's say three or four can be used as an emotionally loaded hyperbole, as long as the context is such that the number will be perceived as exceeding a plausible quantification of the referent at stake.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best,</div><div dir="auto">Riccardo</div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il mar 22 feb 2022, 15:28 Amanda Kann <<a href="mailto:amanda.kann@su.se" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">amanda.kann@su.se</a>> ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Dear typologists,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt">(Apologies to those who have already seen this query through LinguistList!)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;color:black;background:white">I'm looking for corresponding expressions (in any language) to the approximative numeral phrases in the examples below – conventionalized numeral expressions which
typically express larger, approximate numeric quantities and encode some kind of emotive function.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;color:black"><br>
<span style="background:white">I'm interested in the composition and value of these numerals, as well as their emphatic and emotive functions – if there are other expressions in the numeral domain in your language(s) that carry a similar illocutionary force,
I would love to hear about them as well!</span><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:black;background:white">Swedish [swe]: (from Bloggmix 2013, accessed through </span><span style="font-size:11pt"><a href="http://spraakbanken.gu.se/korp" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(33,118,245);background:white;text-decoration:none">http://spraakbanken.gu.se/korp</span></a><span style="color:black;background:white">)</span><span style="color:black"><br>
<span style="background:white">Det finns nämligen femtioelva sorters myror.</span><br>
</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;color:black;background:white">'There are actually many types of ants' (lit. 'There are actually fifty-eleven types of ants')</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;color:black"><br>
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<span style="background:white">French [fra]: (Lavric 2010, </span></span><span style="font-size:11pt"><a href="https://doi.org/10.1163/9789004253247_008" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(33,118,245);background:white;text-decoration:none">https://doi.org/10.1163/9789004253247_008</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;color:black;background:white">)</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;color:black"><br>
<span style="background:white">Il n’y a pas trente-six façons de voir la chose.</span><br>
<span style="background:white">'There aren't very many ways of seeing the thing' (lit. 'There aren't thirty-six ways of seeing the thing')</span><br>
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<span style="background:white">Danish [dan]: (from OpenSubtitles2018, accessed through </span></span><span style="font-size:11pt"><a href="http://opus.nlpl.eu/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(33,118,245);background:white;text-decoration:none">http://opus.nlpl.eu</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;color:black;background:white">)</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;color:black"><br>
<span style="background:white">Han fortalte mig 117 gange, at han ikke gjorde hende noget.</span><br>
<span style="background:white">'He told me a thousand times that he didn't do anything to her' (lit. 'He told me 117 times that he didn't do anything to her')</span><br>
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<span style="background:white">English [eng]: (from OpenSubtitles2018, accessed through </span></span><span style="font-size:11pt"><a href="http://opus.nlpl.eu/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(33,118,245);background:white;text-decoration:none">http://opus.nlpl.eu</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;color:black;background:white">)</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;color:black"><br>
<span style="background:white">For the umpteenth time, we are not getting a dog.</span><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt">Thank you very much in advance for any tips, examples or comments!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt">Best regards,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt">Amanda Kann<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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