<div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Raffaele,</div><div><br></div><div>Does English "ahem" count for your purposes?</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div>Lameen Souag</div><div>LACITO - CNRS / Sorbonne Nouvelle / INALCO<br><a href="https://lameensouag.wordpress.com/">https://lameensouag.wordpress.com/</a></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 11:51 AM <<a href="mailto:lingtyp-request@listserv.linguistlist.org">lingtyp-request@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Send Lingtyp mailing list submissions to<br>
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 10:58:58 +0100<br>
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Dear all,<br>
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working on a paper on ideophones and their place in grammar and lexicon <br>
I happened to wonder how things are concerning cough.<br>
<br>
Romance languages and other which I am familiar with do not seem to have <br>
a standard ideophone for it and even less a stable an accepted written <br>
version of it.<br>
<br>
Do you know languages that have an ideophone for cough and even more a <br>
way of indicating it in writing?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Raffaele<br>
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 18:33:00 +0800<br>
From: Jesse Gates <<a href="mailto:stauskad@gmail.com" target="_blank">stauskad@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Dear Raffaele,<br>
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I always thought the word ‘cough’ had imitative origins in Germanic. <br>
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In Chinese 喀 kā (or reduplicated) is a coughing ideophone.<br>
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Best regards,<br>
<br>
Jesse P. Gates, PhD<br>
Nankai University, School of Literature 南开大学文学院<br>
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> On Mar 11, 2022, at 6:19 PM, <a href="mailto:hoelzlandreas@web.de" target="_blank">hoelzlandreas@web.de</a> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Dear Raffaele,<br>
> <br>
> Manchu (Tungusic) has the following:<br>
> <br>
> keng 'the sound of coughing'<br>
> keng kang 'the sound of many people coughing or clearing their throats'<br>
> kohong kohong or korkong korkong 'the sound of repeated coughing'<br>
> <br>
> These would usually be integrated into the discourse with the help of the verb se- 'to say' that can also function as a quotative if following ideophones, imperatives, and direct speech.<br>
> <br>
> One of them is also the basis for the derivation of a verb:<br>
> <br>
> keng-si- or keng-še- 'to cough, to hack, to clear the throat; ...'<br>
> <br>
> Best,<br>
> <br>
> Andi Hölzl<br>
> <br>
> Gesendet: Freitag, 11. März 2022 um 10:58 Uhr<br>
> Von: "Raffaele Simone" <<a href="mailto:rsimone@os.uniroma3.it" target="_blank">rsimone@os.uniroma3.it</a>><br>
> An: "LINGTYP (<a href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org" target="_blank">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>)" <<a href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org" target="_blank">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>><br>
> Betreff: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?<br>
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> <br>
> Dear all,<br>
> <br>
> working on a paper on ideophones and their place in grammar and lexicon I happened to wonder how things are concerning cough.<br>
> <br>
> Romance languages and other which I am familiar with do not seem to have a standard ideophone for it and even less a stable an accepted written version of it.<br>
> <br>
> Do you know languages that have an ideophone for cough and even more a way of indicating it in writing?<br>
> <br>
> Thanks,<br>
> <br>
> Raffaele<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
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> Hon C Lund University<br>
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> Accademico della Crusca<br>
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 11:18:57 +0000<br>
From: Maia Ponsonnet <<a href="mailto:maia.ponsonnet@uwa.edu.au" target="_blank">maia.ponsonnet@uwa.edu.au</a>><br>
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Hello,<br>
It seems to me that "cough" is used as an ideophone in English comic strips?<br>
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Cheers, Maïa<br>
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Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?<br>
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And Mandarin has an ideophone for coughing. For instance, in Guizhou (Southwestern Mandarin) there is:<br>
<br>
kung kung kung 'the sound of coughing'<br>
<br>
In Standard Pinyin, this would probably be written kong kong kong, but there does not appear to be a standardized written form for this in Chinese either.<br>
<br>
Followed by the general attributive marker de 的, this can function as an (intensifying) attribute of the noun for 'cough' or 'sound'.<br>
<br>
It can also be a verb 'to cough'.<br>
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Best,<br>
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Andi Hölzl<br>
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Gesendet: Freitag, 11. März 2022 um 10:58 Uhr<br>
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Dear all,<br>
<br>
working on a paper on ideophones and their place in grammar and lexicon I happened to wonder how things are concerning cough.<br>
<br>
Romance languages and other which I am familiar with do not seem to have a standard ideophone for it and even less a stable an accepted written version of it.<br>
<br>
Do you know languages that have an ideophone for cough and even more a way of indicating it in writing?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Raffaele<br>
<br>
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Hon C Lund University<br>
Membre de l'Académie Royale de Belgique<br>
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Accademico della Crusca<br>
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