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<p>Thank you all! It seems to me that a lot of interesting
information has come to light. Like several of us, I am convinced
that a theory of language must take into account ideophones and
all phenomena at the margins of grammar and lexicon.</p>
<p>Raffaele</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 12/03/2022 11:01, Hongmei Fang ha
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In Mandarin Chinese, there are <span style="color: rgb(32, 33,
34); font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-align:
left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline
!important;"><i>en h<i style="color:rgb(32, 33,
36);text-align:start">è</i>ng</i>
</span><span style="color: rgb(32, 33, 34); font-family:
Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-align: left;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline
!important; font-size: 11pt;">嗯哼</span><span style="color:
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text-align: left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);
display: inline !important;">,</span><span style="color:rgb(32, 33, 34);font-family:-apple-system,
system-ui, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Lato, Helvetica,
Arial, sans-serif;text-align:left;background-color:rgb(255,
255, 255);display:inline !important"><span style="color:
rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Calibri, Helvetica,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; text-align: start; text-indent:
28px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline
!important;"><i>ké ké </i></span><span style="color:
rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Calibri, Helvetica,
sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; text-align: start; text-indent:
28px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline
!important;">咳咳,</span><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);
font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size:
14px; text-align: start; text-indent: 28px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline
!important;"> </span><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);
font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size:
12pt; text-align: start; text-indent: 28px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline
!important;"><i>a </i></span><span style="color:rgb(51, 51,
51);font-family:"Helvetica Neue", Helvetica,
Arial, "PingFang SC", "Hiragino Sans
GB", "Microsoft YaHei", "WenQuanYi Micro
Hei",
sans-serif;font-size:14px;text-align:start;text-indent:28px;background-color:rgb(255,
255, 255);display:inline !important"><span style="color:
rgb(32, 33, 36); font-family: Calibri, Helvetica,
sans-serif; text-indent: 0px; background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255); display: inline !important; font-size: 12pt;"><i>hèng</i></span><span style="color: rgb(32, 33, 36); font-family: Calibri,
Helvetica, sans-serif; text-indent: 0px; background-color:
rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important;">
</span><span style="color: rgb(32, 33, 36); font-family:
Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-indent: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline
!important; font-size: 11pt;">啊哼.</span></span></span></div>
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rgb(32, 33, 36); font-family: Calibri, Helvetica,
sans-serif; text-indent: 0px; background-color: rgb(255,
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Lingtyp <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org"><lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org></a> on
behalf of Randy J. LaPolla <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:randy.lapolla@gmail.com"><randy.lapolla@gmail.com></a><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?</font>
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‘cough’ is ké-sòu (咳嗽), both parts of which are seen as
onomatopoetic.
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<div class="">On 11 Mar 2022, at 10:07 PM, JOO, Ian
[Student] <<a href="mailto:ian.joo@connect.polyu.hk" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">ian.joo@connect.polyu.hk</a>>
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<div dir="auto" class=""><span class="" style="font-family:"Times New Roman"">The
prosaic (non-ideophonic) words for ‘cough’ indeed
have iconic association to /k/ and /o/. In
Johansson et al. (2020), they find that /k/ and
/o/ occur frequently in hundreds of words for
‘cough’ in genealogically unrelated languages:</span><br class="">
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<div class=""><span class="" style="font-family:Times">COUGH, LUNG, SNORE and
THROAT were also associated with [+round] and</span></div>
<div class=""><span class="" style="font-family:Times">[back], but instead of
/u/, the most commonly occurring cardinal sound
was /o/</span></div>
<div class=""><span class="" style="font-family:Times">in all cases. In
addition, COUGH was also associated with [</span><span class="" style="font-family:Helvetica">–</span><span class="" style="font-family:Times">voice] which
was</span></div>
<div class=""><span class="" style="font-family:Times">represented by the
cardinal sound /k/. This seems to suggest that
the common</span></div>
<div class=""><span class="" style="font-family:Times">phonetic denominator
in the macro-concept PHARYNGEAL involves the
back of</span></div>
<div class=""><span class="" style="font-family:Times">oral cavity and
possibly also a somewhat more open mouth than
the vowels of</span></div>
<div class=""><span class="" style="font-family:Times">AIRFLOW.</span></div>
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<div dir="auto" class="">Johansson, N. E., Anikin, A.,
Carling, G., & Holmer, A. (2020). The typology
of sound symbolism: Defining macro-concepts via
their semantic and phonetic features. Linguistic
Typology, 24(2), 253-310.</div>
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On 11 Mar 2022, 2:59 PM +0100, Giurgea Ion <<a href="mailto:giurgeaion@yahoo.com" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">giurgeaion@yahoo.com</a>>,
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<div dir="ltr" class="">Dear all,</div>
<div dir="ltr" class="">The Indo-European
reconstructed root has a similar ideophonic
basis - here is the entry in H. Rix (ed.,2001)
Lexikon der indogermanischen Verben:</div>
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<div class="">On Friday, March 11, 2022,
03:52:52 PM GMT+2, JOO, Ian [Student] <<a href="mailto:ian.joo@connect.polyu.hk" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">ian.joo@connect.polyu.hk</a>>
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<div class="">Dear Rafaelle,<br class="" clear="none">
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here are the translations of Korean
콜록콜록 khollok-khollok that I have
retrieved from the Naver Dictionaries
(<a href="https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdict.naver.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ch.m.fang%40uva.nl%7Cb5b848845d3e4e9a2a8908da03d38c33%7Ca0f1cacd618c4403b94576fb3d6874e5%7C0%7C0%7C637826505123425546%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=GcvBdnAeDoDn7S2XRFrqcPQUpr5N0gAOyRDG0RePqgo%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="http://dict.naver.com/" shash="QeDOcu3L9rBlTBVA0xn0ACtXCzO0Xvf/cPocANPcnhzvJPBf+Vrcium68Na/Dt3/DY4SZboTmTtQ2osQ6KSuAZ1D1foPRQiNyy8F37JHhVRJyetW1tE7b3syN0QbkZMlYxtDeq94ZOcFCAprZv+DaSjR10yIpWkS5jjSvQZG6JY=" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">dict.naver.com</a>).<br class="" clear="none">
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Japanese ごほんごほん, こんこん. gohon-gohon,
kon-kon<br class="" clear="none">
Mandarin 喀喀 ,吭吭 ,咳咳 kākā, kēngkēng,
kéké<br class="" clear="none">
Vietnamese sù sụ, khù khụ<br class="" clear="none">
Mongolian пөг пөг pög-pög<br class="" clear="none">
Indonesian krok krok<br class="" clear="none">
Thai โขลก ๆ, ค๊อก ๆ, แค๊ก ๆ khlôok
khlôok, khóok khóok, khéek khéek<br class="" clear="none">
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Hope this helps.<br class="" clear="none">
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From Uppsala,
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<div class="">On 11 Mar 2022, 2:22 PM
+0100, Csilla Kász, M.A. <<a href="mailto:ckasz@isfas.uni-kiel.de" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">ckasz@isfas.uni-kiel.de</a>>,
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<p class="" style="margin-top:12px;
margin-bottom:12px">Hello,</p>
<p class="" style="margin-top:12px;
margin-bottom:12px">The Hungarian
counterpart of a fake cough is
quite similar to the Finnish, but
is usually said twice:</p>
<p class="" style="margin-top:12px;
margin-bottom:12px"><em class="">Köhöm-köhöm</em></p>
<p class="" style="margin-top:12px;
margin-bottom:12px">the
pronunciation is [køhøm]</p>
<p class="" style="margin-top:12px;
margin-bottom:12px">Best,</p>
<p class="" style="margin-top:12px;
margin-bottom:12px">Csilla</p>
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Am 2022-03-11 14:06, schrieb Jussi
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<div class="" style="font-family:Tahoma,Geneva,sans-serif;
font-size:10pt">[mˈm̥m],
this discussion sounds
interesting! For
pronunciation and
translations for<span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span><em class="">ahem</em>, see<span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span><a shape="rect" id="x_ydpbcaf48dayiv7983908605v1LPNoLPOWALinkPreview" href="https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wiktionary.org%2Fwiki%2Fahem&data=04%7C01%7Ch.m.fang%40uva.nl%7Cb5b848845d3e4e9a2a8908da03d38c33%7Ca0f1cacd618c4403b94576fb3d6874e5%7C0%7C0%7C637826505123425546%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=7%2FQMKOFfjo2Ksbg2fD%2FI%2FdFDCHSAFS331t7Sw%2BSm4Ic%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ahem" shash="dNbLklcNQX6+r6M5Uq413y5fyDu4ChiPdFKwBcGgiPYlMtQ5jEoqowr+KjE1HBAdIPbPsHMametJZWZPAWv5kdMFfDWnrEXIgDb36i+EPyxXH9UnuDHG0I7kLcyztnnBUN4RukkYeCNJU//a09zjNsJORKkB/HfQTsmcKfqsN8k=" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://en.wikt
ionary.org/wiki/ahem</a><span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>with the interlanguage links. I
just added<span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span><a shape="rect" title="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kr%C3%B6h%C3%B6m" href="https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wiktionary.org%2Fwiki%2Fkr%25C3%25B6h%25C3%25B6m&data=04%7C01%7Ch.m.fang%40uva.nl%7Cb5b848845d3e4e9a2a8908da03d38c33%7Ca0f1cacd618c4403b94576fb3d6874e5%7C0%7C0%7C637826505123581668%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=a58J4graJ5RmFUsf6Ba%2F6ZKQvRLWcJMR4SrWptgPjk4%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kr%C3%B6h%C3%B6m" shash="YxkxxHNgkYCBm3acRLFGPpBW3nNvXmoiGxG2pZWJyxfmVoAh9h+cNeEjizGfotg+J6bvkvhBLSDDbtlZ/LkzgcgmYv00UztUktiVi8EDnljQt2X+UYikfj9cC92Kby9K1TWb7DZmWOZ5JPA5pJbRZmc8eX5IY6TqJuEYefonUQ8=" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener" class="" moz-do-not-send="true"><em class="">kröhöm</em></a><span class="x_Apple-converted-space">&nb
sp;</span>into the Finnish entry at<span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span><a shape="rect" id="x_ydpbcaf48dayiv7983908605v1LPNoLPOWALinkPreview_1" href="https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffi.wiktionary.org%2Fwiki%2Fahem&data=04%7C01%7Ch.m.fang%40uva.nl%7Cb5b848845d3e4e9a2a8908da03d38c33%7Ca0f1cacd618c4403b94576fb3d6874e5%7C0%7C0%7C637826505123581668%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=fZmcEtcOSUTp%2FQHGammGphsvBbdojImBizFVZcVrjas%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="https://fi.wiktionary.org/wiki/ahem" shash="dyWw/5m8Qa+45OaTB0wq/T6ksyhNFFtnOXOIjwhIGhjOGVFcCJZ7vtU4pHOpkmySObp/KlhDnS1QZiT/U3wnfJEElBHvsuULKE/+eRZDPGTBgjjvuLAW3L9jyVLC1GW5j+eX9MsYg9nsx/6x3KGAB+TiqYRnJtkFvRWQCDo9YWQ=" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://fi.wiktionary.org/wiki/ahem</a>.</div>
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<strong class="">Efni:</strong><span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for
cough?</span>
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<div class="">
<p class="" style="margin-top:12px;
margin-bottom:12px">Dear
all,</p>
<p class="" style="margin-top:12px;
margin-bottom:12px">Not
exactly ideophones or
coughing, but English has
"harrumph" and "ahem" to
denote a sort of fake
cough intentionally
produced to express
disapproval and/or draw
attention. (The two
actually seem to differ in
their status: whereas the
former is kind of a
regular verb, I don't
think I've ever heard
"ahem" pronounced — it
seems to exist only in
written form.)</p>
<p class="" style="margin-top:12px;
margin-bottom:12px">Do
other languages have
similar forms? </p>
<p class="" style="margin-top:12px;
margin-bottom:12px">David</p>
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<div class="x_ydpbcaf48dayiv7983908605v1x_moz-cite-prefix">On
11/03/2022 11:58, Raffaele
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<span class="">Dear all,</span></p>
<p class="x_ydpbcaf48dayiv7983908605v1x_MsoNormal" style="margin-top:12px;
margin-bottom:12px">
<span class="">working
on a paper on
ideophones and their
place in grammar and
lexicon I happened to
wonder how things are
concerning cough.</span><span class=""></span></p>
<p class="x_ydpbcaf48dayiv7983908605v1x_MsoNormal" style="margin-top:12px;
margin-bottom:12px">
<span class="">Romance
languages and other
which I am familiar
with do not seem to
have a standard
ideophone for it and
even less a stable an
accepted written
version of it.</span><span class=""></span></p>
<p class="x_ydpbcaf48dayiv7983908605v1x_MsoNormal" style="margin-top:12px;
margin-bottom:12px">
<span class="">Do you
know languages that
have an ideophone for
cough and even more a
way of indicating it
in writing?</span></p>
<p class="x_ydpbcaf48dayiv7983908605v1x_MsoNormal" style="margin-top:12px;
margin-bottom:12px">
Thanks,</p>
<p class="x_ydpbcaf48dayiv7983908605v1x_MsoNormal" style="margin-top:12px;
margin-bottom:12px">
Raffaele<br class="" clear="none">
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<strong class="">Efni:</strong><span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for
cough?</span>
<div class=""> </div>
</div>
<div class="">
<p class="" style="margin-top:12px;
margin-bottom:12px">Dear
all,</p>
<p class="" style="margin-top:12px;
margin-bottom:12px">Not
exactly ideophones or
coughing, but English has
"harrumph" and "ahem" to
denote a sort of fake
cough intentionally
produced to express
disapproval and/or draw
attention. (The two
actually seem to differ in
their status: whereas the
former is kind of a
regular verb, I don't
think I've ever heard
"ahem" pronounced — it
seems to exist only in
written form.)</p>
<p class="" style="margin-top:12px;
margin-bottom:12px">Do
other languages have
similar forms? </p>
<p class="" style="margin-top:12px;
margin-bottom:12px">David</p>
<p class="" style="margin-top:12px;
margin-bottom:12px"><br class="" clear="none">
</p>
<div class="x_ydpbcaf48dayiv7983908605v1x_moz-cite-prefix">On
11/03/2022 11:58, Raffaele
Simone wrote:</div>
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<span class="">Dear all,</span></p>
<p class="x_ydpbcaf48dayiv7983908605v1x_MsoNormal" style="margin-top:12px;
margin-bottom:12px">
<span class="">working
on a paper on
ideophones and their
place in grammar and
lexicon I happened to
wonder how things are
concerning cough.</span><span class=""></span></p>
<p class="x_ydpbcaf48dayiv7983908605v1x_MsoNormal" style="margin-top:12px;
margin-bottom:12px">
<span class="">Romance
languages and other
which I am familiar
with do not seem to
have a standard
ideophone for it and
even less a stable an
accepted written
version of it.</span><span class=""></span></p>
<p class="x_ydpbcaf48dayiv7983908605v1x_MsoNormal" style="margin-top:12px;
margin-bottom:12px">
<span class="">Do you
know languages that
have an ideophone for
cough and even more a
way of indicating it
in writing?</span></p>
<p class="x_ydpbcaf48dayiv7983908605v1x_MsoNormal" style="margin-top:12px;
margin-bottom:12px">
Thanks,</p>
<p class="x_ydpbcaf48dayiv7983908605v1x_MsoNormal" style="margin-top:12px;
margin-bottom:12px">
Raffaele<br class="" clear="none">
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