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As an aside, and echoing Postal's critique, in my teaching I make sure to use diverse first names in my examples instead of Mary and John. If anything, <span style="margin:0px;font-size:12pt">Mary, John and the like are simply completely at odds with the first
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(Postal's critique is important and it generally applies to any attempt to counter discrimination. Essentially, to counter discrimination we have to identify it, and by doing so we acknowledge the relevance of one category against others. E.g. we do not worry
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<p class="x_elementToProof" style="">I'm only aware of the debate around LSA guidelines in the early 2000's, including, among others, Postal's (2003, 187) reply :</p>
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<p style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt"><span class="x_elementToProof" style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Code2000">"it is arbitrary and discriminatory to try policing them only with respect to one or more favored victim groups,
the policing code is necessarily incompatible with the principle of free speech, and, finally, it is in any event not possible to actually codify usage conditions that genuinely pick out all and only the offensive. Given all this, codes like the LSA guidelines
are in part harmful and in part useless." (Postal 2003, 187).</span></p>
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P. M. (2003). Policing the content of linguistic examples.<span style="margin:0px"> </span></span><i style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255); color:rgb(34,34,34); font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:13px; text-align:left">Language</i><span style="margin:0px; font-size:13px; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; color:rgb(34,34,34); background-color:rgb(255,255,255); text-align:left; display:inline!important">,<span style="margin:0px"> </span></span><i style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255); color:rgb(34,34,34); font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:13px; text-align:left">79</i><span class="x_elementToProof" style="margin:0px; font-size:13px; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; color:rgb(34,34,34); background-color:rgb(255,255,255); text-align:left; display:inline!important">(1),
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1. Reference for violence (hit, kill) in articles in linguistics<br>
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Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2022 12:51:15 +0100<br>
From: Sebastian Nordhoff <sebastian.nordhoff@glottotopia.de><br>
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Subject: [Lingtyp] Reference for violence (hit, kill) in articles in<br>
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Dear all,<br>
I have occasionally been part in discussions where the frequent use of <br>
violent concepts such as 'hit' or 'kill' in linguistics is mentioned and <br>
sometimes criticized.<br>
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I believe there is some research article providing empirical evidence <br>
for linguistic articles being unnecessarily "violent", but I am unable <br>
to locate it. Could the list members help me?<br>
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Best wishes<br>
Sebastian<br>
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PS: I am aware that 'hit' and 'kill' have a number of semantic <br>
properties which make them very suitable for a number of research questions.<br>
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