<div dir="ltr">Nanai, a Manchu-Tungus language from East Central Asia, has a largish system of ideophones. Bi- or multi-syllable mimetics are largely composed of a first syllable marking properties of some figural object followed by suffixes marking the larger spatiotemporal context, INCLUDING specific suffixes marking 'motion' in general. Mongolic languages, which also have large ideophonic systems, also have specific suffixes which make the figure possess a 'dynamic' (as opposed to 'static') aspect. Such dynamic senses don't necessarily involve translational symmetry operations- other symmetry transitions are just as good (for example reverberation in place).<div><br></div><div>These suffixes, largely limited to ideophones, can be replaced by actual motion verbs involving the ideophone root preceding it in a light-verb constructional context.</div><div><br></div><div>Jess Tauber</div></div><div id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br>
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</table><a href="#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2" width="1" height="1"></a></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 10:36 AM Juergen Bohnemeyer <<a href="mailto:jb77@buffalo.edu">jb77@buffalo.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Dear Sergey — Interesting question! I don’t think there’s anything in the grammar of most languages that corresponds to or expresses the concept of ‘motion.’ <br>
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The various subclasses of motion verbs can be defined on semantic grounds: path verbs entail change of location; manner verbs describe activities of agents/effectors that can cause change of location or describe change of orientation in those same agents/effectors; transport verbs are either causative path verbs or locate an object on a carrier (‘carry on back’, ‘carry on hip’, etc.), and so on. <br>
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But there’s no overarching definition that would encompass all those subclasses, but no events that don’t involve motion. So a definition such as ’The class of all verbs of a given language that is used to describe exclusively motion events’ can at best be met disjunctively and thus doesn’t define the most “natural” concept. <br>
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The supposedly primitive concept ‘motion’ apparently just isn’t. <br>
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An important reference on the typology of motion verbs is Wälchli (2009). <br>
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HTH! — Juergen<br>
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Wälchli, B. (2009). Motion events in parallel texts: A study in primary-data typology. Habilitation thesis, University of Bern.<br>
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> On Jun 6, 2022, at 9:50 AM, Sergey Loesov <<a href="mailto:sergeloesov@gmail.com" target="_blank">sergeloesov@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> How do we properly define the concept “motion verb”? I am especially interested in the telic variety, both transitive and intransitive ones.<br>
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> Sergey <br>
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