<div dir="ltr">Thanks Adam for raising this issue and thanks especially to Christian for for pointing us to his article. <div><br></div><div>Just as an anecdote about examples and what they illustrate - I am going through spontaneous conversational Hebrew corpora right now, and am having a very hard time locating examples that one could use to illustrate basic grammatical relations in the language, i.e., clauses that are the equivalent of the standard ones that we can all produce in our languages and which populate linguistic discussions of GRs. So even if one does occasionally find something like "I used avocado cream mask" or "She fell asleep," one would hardly find them representative of hours of language as actually used.<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Back to spectrograms and pitch tracks etc., I wonder what your impression is of the very qualitative type of work done in interactional linguistics, where typically not much is claimed in terms of generalizations but each utterance is analyzed pretty exhaustively in terms of, inter alia, prosody. My own impression of this kind of work is that it does not make fancy claims with respect to science, but the reader does get a good idea of what the range of variation is and how the prosody of each utterance relates to this.</div><div><br></div><div>Eitan</div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 5:16 PM Christian Lehmann <<a href="mailto:christian.lehmann@uni-erfurt.de">christian.lehmann@uni-erfurt.de</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Dear Jürgen,<br>
<br>
to mitigate a bit your pessimist opinion of the methodological
situation of our discipline, let me mention, as a contribution to
the discussion you are requiring, my web page<br>
<a href="https://www.christianlehmann.eu/ling/ling_meth/ling_description/representations/?open=example.inc" target="_blank">https://www.christianlehmann.eu/ling/ling_meth/ling_description/representations/?open=example.inc</a><br>
which advocates a distinction between <br>
<ol>
<li>a probatory example (which is data used as scientific
evidence)</li>
<li>and an illustrative example (or pedagogical example, which is
only meant to render a descriptive statement more concrete and,
thus, to help understanding).</li>
</ol>
Methodological standards for these two kinds of examples are
completely different. On #1, I may recommend:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/249931781_Data_in_linguistics" target="_blank">Lehmann,
Christian 2004, “Data in linguistics.” <i>The Linguistic Review</i>
21(3/4):275-310.</a><br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Christian<br>
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