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<p>Dear Maia,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Indonesian uses <i>aduh</i> (with some
dialectal variation
with regard to the realization of the second syllable, resulting
in forms such
as [adu], [ado], [adi] and others.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">However, the range of usages of <i>aduh </i>is
much wider
than that of English <i>ouch</i>.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">
</span>Although
it can be used, like <i>ouch</i>, as an involuntary expression of
sudden and unexpected
pain, it can also be used in the context of ongoing physical pain,
and, perhaps
more commonly, also to express the emotional distress of the
speaker, or alternatively
empathy with the physical or emotional state of the interlocutor,
or even a
third party.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Although
regaining its
(primary?) 'ouch' usage, it is thus more integrated into the
language as a
whole, and is of much higher frequency.<span
style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>The
(open access) Jakarta Field Station contains over 5000 tokens of <i>aduh</i>,
with interlinear glosses and indications of their associated
contexts.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">David<u></u></p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 18/01/2023 13:13, PONSONNET Maia
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<p>I am starting a study on pain interjections and
the phonetic material they are made of. </p>
<p>Before I begin excavating individual lexical resources, I
thought I'd put a request to the list. </p>
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<p>Would you be able to share the forms of pain
interjection(s) in the languages you know?</p>
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<p>All I need is the form, with its <b>phonetic
transcription </b>and any <b>prosodic information</b>;
as well as its <b>semantic scope </b>(is it just pain or
does it also express other experiences eg surprise,
fear...?). If you can flag a published source where the
interjection is documented this is ideal. </p>
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<p>Also, if you can point to references containing lists of
interjections (eg grammars), this will be extremely useful
too.</p>
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<p>Many many thanks for your contributions, it is wonderful
to be able to rely on such a knowledgeable and generous
community. </p>
<p>With kind regards, </p>
<p>Maïa</p>
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<b>Envoyé :</b> mardi 17 janvier 2023 23:46<br>
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<b>Cc :</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:eelienu@pm.me">eelienu@pm.me</a><br>
<b>Objet :</b> [Lingtyp] Re. ELAN FLEx ELAN round trip
(Eline Visser)</font>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Eline, thanks for highlighting the
difficulties of using the "ELAN → Flex → ELAN round trip
workflow".
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The version you linked to seems to be missing
screenshots and perhaps some other parts, so I'm
attaching the original PDF here.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I'm not sure if the problems you mention are due to
changes in the software since 2015, or if these were
always problems anyway. It was always a rather hacky,
clumsy process!</div>
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<div>I should also mention that when you get to the
point of going ELAN → Flex → ELAN → Flex, things
really seem to get difficult. I think this is because
when your text has already been in Flex, it creates
some kind of identifiers in the Flex database, then
trying to re-import it with additional annotations
always made it crash for me (even if I deleted the
previous version of the text from Flex first).</div>
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<div>I agree it would be great to have a more stable and
user-friendly way of doing all this!</div>
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<div>John</div>
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