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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">In the signed language I am most familiar with, Auslan (the majority signed language of the Australian deaf community), either of these two signs (which can also function as verbs/predicates) would
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오후</span> 1:13, PONSONNET Maia <maia.ponsonnet@cnrs.fr> <span style="font-family:"Malgun Gothic",sans-serif">
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black">Dear all, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black">I am starting a study on pain interjections and the phonetic material they are made of. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black">Before I begin excavating individual lexical resources, I thought I'd put a request to the list. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black">Would you be able to share the forms of pain interjection(s) in the languages you know?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black">All I need is the form, with its <b>phonetic transcription </b>and any <b>prosodic information</b>; as well as its <b>semantic scope </b>(is it just pain or does it also express other experiences
eg surprise, fear...?). If you can flag a published source where the interjection is documented this is ideal. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black">Also, if you can point to references containing lists of interjections (eg grammars), this will be extremely useful too.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black">Many many thanks for your contributions, it is wonderful to be able to rely on such a knowledgeable and generous community. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black">With kind regards, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black">Maïa<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black">Maïa Ponsonnet</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">De :</span></b><span style="color:black"> Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org> de la part de John Mansfield <jbmansfield@gmail.com><br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> mardi 17 janvier 2023 23:46<br>
<b>À :</b> lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org<br>
<b>Cc :</b> eelienu@pm.me<br>
<b>Objet :</b> [Lingtyp] Re. ELAN FLEx ELAN round trip (Eline Visser)</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black">Hi Eline, thanks for highlighting the difficulties of using the "ELAN → Flex → ELAN round trip workflow".
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black">The version you linked to seems to be missing screenshots and perhaps some other parts, so I'm attaching the original PDF here.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black">I'm not sure if the problems you mention are due to changes in the software since 2015, or if these were always problems anyway. It was always a rather hacky, clumsy process!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black">I should also mention that when you get to the point of going ELAN → Flex → ELAN → Flex, things really seem to get difficult. I think this is because when your text has already
been in Flex, it creates some kind of identifiers in the Flex database, then trying to re-import it with additional annotations always made it crash for me (even if I deleted the previous version of the text from Flex first).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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