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<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif;font-size:small"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;font-size:medium;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)" lang="EN-US">Hello everyone, we are Silvia Luraghi, Chiara Zanchi, Erica Biagetti and Luca Brigada Villa (University of Pavia) and w</span><span style="font-family:docs-Roboto,serif;color:rgb(32,33,36)" lang="EN-US">e are starting <b><i>Universal Dependencies for Historical Languages</i></b> (<b>UD4HL</b>), a new <b>discussion group</b> on the annotation of treebanks of historical languages.<span> </span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;font-size:medium;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:docs-Roboto,serif;color:rgb(32,33,36)" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;font-size:medium;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:docs-Roboto,serif;color:rgb(32,33,36)" lang="EN-US">We would like to systematically address with colleagues working on ancient languages problems such as:</span></p><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:docs-Roboto,serif;color:rgb(32,33,36)" lang="EN-US">1.<span style="font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman""> <span> </span></span></span><b><span style="font-family:docs-Roboto,serif;color:rgb(32,33,36)" lang="EN-US">methodological issues</span></b><span style="font-family:docs-Roboto,serif;color:rgb(32,33,36)" lang="EN-US">, linked for example to the possibility of including philological or historical information in the MISC field;</span></p><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0cm 36pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:docs-Roboto,serif;color:rgb(32,33,36)" lang="EN-US">2.<span style="font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman""> <span> </span></span></span><b><span style="font-family:docs-Roboto,serif;color:rgb(32,33,36)" lang="EN-US">annotation issues</span></b><span style="font-family:docs-Roboto,serif;color:rgb(32,33,36)" lang="EN-US">,
mainly due to the fact that for historical languages we cannot rely on
the competence of speakers and we often need more fine-grained
guidelines than those of modern languages.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;font-size:medium;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:docs-Roboto,serif;color:rgb(32,33,36)" lang="EN-US">Our
intention is not to use this group as a substitute of the already
existing and lively UD discussion groups, but rather to create an
environment where issues that are specific to the annotation of ancient
languages can be discussed among experts of such languages before they
are presented to the UD community. For each topic addressed within our
group, we plan to open a new Github issue in the UD repository, so that
other people can take part in the discussion and solutions we reached
for historical languages can be shared with the rest of the community.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;font-size:medium;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:docs-Roboto,serif;color:rgb(32,33,36)" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;font-size:medium;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:docs-Roboto,serif;color:rgb(32,33,36)" lang="EN-US">We would like to start a <b>review process</b> addressing<span> </span><b>one construction type at a time</b>:
in this way we would be able to fix errors due to conversion from other
annotation schemes and due to inconsistent application of the
guidelines and at the same time we would be able to assemble more
fine-grained guidelines for new treebank developers. In our view,
correcting the annotation of ancient language treebanks does not mean
changing UD rules, but try and find the most linguistically accurate
solutions within those rules. For example, Chiara Zanchi, Erica Biagetti
and Francesco Mambrini (2022) focused on how to apply the UD guidelines
on trivalent verbs to double accusative constructions in the<span> </span><i>Homeric Dependency Treebank</i>.
In this case, more fine-grained guidelines served to indicate to the
annotators of Ancient Greek (and eventually Sanskrit, Latin, etc.)
treebanks how to identify the second and third argument in such
constructions (mainly given that there are no native speakers of these
languages and we therefore cannot rely on intuition).</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;font-size:medium;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:docs-Roboto,serif;color:rgb(32,33,36)" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;font-size:medium;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:docs-Roboto,serif;color:rgb(32,33,36)" lang="EN-US">Besides discussing them with the UD community, we would like to present some of the outcomes of the discussion at the workshop <b><i>Exploiting standardized cross-linguistic data in historical linguistics</i></b> organized by Robert Forkel, Gerhard Jäger and Johann-Mattis List at the <b>International Conference on Historical Linguistics </b>(ICHL26, 4-8 September 2023). You can find more details on the workshop at the following link: </span><a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.slav.uni-heidelberg.de%2Fmd%2Fslav%2Fforschung%2Ftagungen%2Fichl26%2Fichl26_selected_workshops.pdf&data=05%7C01%7Cmarco.passarotti%40unicatt.it%7C414485636035471e245f08daf6ee626d%7Cb94f7d7481ff44a9b5886682acc85779%7C0%7C0%7C638093802312736542%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=9jqKUOorQo%2Bo2GjNH7biMepE6UTgX6c7f7ICqupat8I%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:docs-Roboto,serif" lang="EN-US">https://www.slav.uni-heidelberg.de/md/slav/forschung/tagungen/ichl26/ichl26_selected_workshops.pdf</span></a><span style="font-family:docs-Roboto,serif;color:rgb(32,33,36)" lang="EN-US">.</span></p><span><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;font-size:medium;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:docs-Roboto,serif;color:rgb(32,33,36)" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;font-size:medium;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:docs-Roboto,serif;color:rgb(32,33,36)" lang="EN-US">We
would be really happy if you would like to take part in the discussion!
If so, we kindly ask you to fill out the form below and forward it to
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<div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Silvia Luraghi<br>Università di Pavia<br>Dipartimento di Studi Umanistici, Sezione di Linguistica <br>Strada Nuova 65<br>I-27100 Pavia<br>tel.: +39/0382/984685<div style="display:inline"></div><div>Web page personale: <a href="https://studiumanistici.unipv.it/?pagina=docenti&id=68" target="_blank">https://studiumanistici.unipv.it/?pagina=docenti&id=68</a></div></div></div></div></div>