<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Dear Raffaele Simone,<div><br></div><div>In Japhug, what I refer as the cataphoric function of the medial demonstrative <i>nɤki</i> corresponds to what you are looking for (see <a href="https://langsci-press.org/catalog/book/295">A grammar of Japhug | Language Science Press (langsci-press.org)</a>, pp 226-227, in particular examples 134 and 135), a demonstrative that is used to replace a noun one cannot think of immediately, followed by a hesitation. It is also used as a speech filler without specific reference (see pp.457-458). This demonstrative is etymologically from the 2sg possessive prefix <i>nɤ</i>- follow by the proximal demonstrative <i>ki</i> (literally "your this").</div><div><br></div><div>Best wishes,</div><div><br></div><div>Guillaume</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le jeu. 9 mars 2023 à 09:08, Raffaele Simone <<a href="mailto:raffaele.simone@uniroma3.it">raffaele.simone@uniroma3.it</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg1818221688216900368">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14pt">Dear friends and colleagues,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14pt">I am preparing a paper on that group of general-generic words that are used to designate entities whose name you do not know or do not remember, or whose name you do not want to remember or that,
simply, have no name in a language. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14pt">I’m referring to “nouns” like French "truc" and "machin", Italian "coso", "arnese", "aggeggio", or, for people, Italian "tizio", "tipo", Spanish "tío", “fulano”, English "dude" etc. They form
apparently a special word class and implement a particular way of designating.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14pt">The situation in the European languages I am familiar with seems very fragmented and discontinuous: some languages do have sets of dedicated or semidedicated words for that function, but most
don’t, as far as I see.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14pt">Does any of you have examples from other languages and, if any, bibliographic references?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14pt">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14pt">Raffaele<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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