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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I am very sorry, I meant dear Raffaele !<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">(this reminds me of all the times I am called Rose)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-fareast-language:FR">De :</span></b><span style="mso-fareast-language:FR"> Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org>
<b>De la part de</b> Françoise Rose<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> jeudi 9 mars 2023 13:33<br>
<b>À :</b> Raffaele Simone <raffaele.simone@uniroma3.it>; LINGTYP@listserv.linguistlist.org<br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: [Lingtyp] Truc, machin and friends<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Simone,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">As a follow up to the 2010 volume mentioned by Timur, Brigitte Pakendorf and myself organized a workshop on fillers and placeholders at ALT this winter. They were talks on a variety of languages (I am pasting below the
program). The type of word you are referring to is called nominal placeholder in the literature. Their source can be a noun, but also a demonstrative or interrogative pronoun,… I am joining the call for abstracts, which includes some references.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Best,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Françoise</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="color:#0563C1;mso-fareast-language:FR"><a href="http://www.ddl.ish-lyon.cnrs.fr/Rose">Françoise Rose</a></span></u><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:FR">One more thing ‘thing’ can do in Tupi-Guarani languages : ‘thing’ as a filler in Teko</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-fareast-language:FR">De :</span></b><span style="mso-fareast-language:FR"> Lingtyp <<a href="mailto:lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org">lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>>
<b>De la part de</b> Raffaele Simone<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> mercredi 8 mars 2023 19:08<br>
<b>À :</b> <a href="mailto:LINGTYP@listserv.linguistlist.org">LINGTYP@listserv.linguistlist.org</a><br>
<b>Objet :</b> [Lingtyp] Truc, machin and friends</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt">Dear friends and colleagues,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt">I am preparing a paper on that group of general-generic words that are used to designate entities whose name you do not know or do not remember, or whose name you do not want to remember or that,
simply, have no name in a language. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt">I’m referring to “nouns” like French "truc" and "machin", Italian "coso", "arnese", "aggeggio", or, for people, Italian "tizio", "tipo", Spanish "tío", “fulano”, English "dude" etc. They form
apparently a special word class and implement a particular way of designating.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt">The situation in the European languages I am familiar with seems very fragmented and discontinuous: some languages do have sets of dedicated or semidedicated words for that function, but most
don’t, as far as I see.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt">Does any of you have examples from other languages and, if any, bibliographic references?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt">Raffaele</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="IT" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:IT">==============</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="IT" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:IT">Emeritus Professor, Università Roma Tre</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="IT" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:IT">Hon C Lund University</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:IT">Membre de l'Académie Royale de Belgique</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:IT">Chevalier de l'Ordre des Arts et des Lettres de France</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:IT">Accademico (corrispondente) della Crusca</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:IT">Prix de l'Institut de France-Fondation Bonnefous 2022</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="IT" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:IT">===============</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="IT" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:IT">Attività e pubblicazioni // Activity and publications
<a href="http://uniroma3.academia.edu/RaffaeleSimone"><span style="color:blue">http://uniroma3.academia.edu/RaffaeleSimone</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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