<div dir="ltr">Concerning the extension from ventive => second person goal, see the following article and the reference therein:<div><br><div><a href="https://www.academia.edu/4349474/Direct_inverse_systems">(3) Direct/inverse systems | Anton Antonov and Guillaume Jacques - Academia.edu</a></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le ven. 24 mars 2023 à 17:42, Sergey Loesov <<a href="mailto:sergeloesov@gmail.com">sergeloesov@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Dear colleagues,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I am working on the “Ventive” marker in Old Babylonian
and Old Assyrian, two East Semitic varieties of the early second millennium BC,
both with extensive and reasonably well understood epistolary corpora of
private correspondence. The “Ventive” is a directional marker cliticized on motion
verbs to indicate motion towards a deictic centre (DC). In the default case,
the DC is the location of the speaker/writer, and the Ventive is obligatory in
this context. But this marker often appears on verbs describing translocation
towards THOU (the addressee of the respective letter), and – though less frequently
– towards other goals. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I believe that to encode the motion towards the respective
speaker/writer is the primordial and “natural” function of this marker, while
the other usages represent “deictic transfers”, somewhat comparable to Bühler’s
Deixis am Phantasma. I.e., a “deictic transfer” happens by virtue of the marker’s
deictic (or “shifer”, in the sense of Roman Jakobson) nature.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Could you please suggest to me some cross-linguistic analogies
and typological studies of spatial deictic shifts, migration of the DC from the
speaker to something else?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Thank you very much,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Sergey</span></p></div>
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