<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Hi Ian,<div><br></div><div>The short answer is no, but with some nuance. Voiced aspirated consonants have a voiced high airflow period after the constriction is released.</div><div>These may often be also described as breathy voiced in some sources. However, breathy voiced consonants also occur in which the breathiness</div><div>is essentially manifested during the constriction of the consonant with maybe a brief spillover and/or anticipation in an adjoining vowel. These</div><div>are not phonetically equivalent to voiced aspirates. I don’t know of a languages that contrasts both types, so deciding if they are phonologically</div><div>equivalent would depend on looking at other factors, such as distributional tendencies or co-occurrence patterns. </div><div><br></div><div>Ian<br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Mar 28, 2023, at 04:39, Ian Joo <ian_joo@nucba.ac.jp> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div dir="auto">Dear typologists,<div><br></div><div>Is there any meaningful distinction between voiced aspirated (e.g. /<span style="caret-color: rgb(32, 33, 34); color: rgb(32, 33, 34); font-family: sans-serif; white-space: nowrap; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">bʰ/) and breathy voiced (e.g. /</span>b̤/) consonants, phonetically or phonologically?</div><div>In other words, is it safe to say <span style="caret-color: rgb(32, 33, 34); color: rgb(32, 33, 34); font-family: sans-serif; white-space: nowrap; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">bʰ = </span>bʱ <span style="caret-color: rgb(32, 33, 34); color: rgb(32, 33, 34); font-family: sans-serif; white-space: nowrap; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">=</span> b̤?</div><div><br></div><div>From Netherlands,</div><div>Ian</div></div>_______________________________________________<br>Lingtyp mailing list<br>Lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org<br>https://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lingtyp<br></div></blockquote></div><br><div>
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Times; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><div>Ian Maddieson</div><div><br></div><div>Department of Linguistics</div><div>University of New Mexico</div><div>MSC03-2130</div><div>Albuquerque NM 87131-0001</div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
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