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I assume that also in RRG (I love the typo 'Roll' for 'Role'!) complements in the first sense are a subset of those in the second sense even if the relevant definitions aren't syntactic.</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> 09 May 2023 3:40 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lingtyp] what is designated by a complement claus</font>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear Lixin ˇV OK, ˇ§Iˇ¦ll biteˇ¨ (i.e., let me try):
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">What is meant by ˇĄcomplementsˇ¦ in this thread are subordinate clauses or verbal projections that are semantically (if not necessarily syntactically, depending on your favorite theory of syntax) arguments
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">This notion of ˇĄcomplementsˇ¦ overlaps with that of Dependency Grammar, which designates any and all syntactic arguments.
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">So if one assumes that all complements in the first sense are syntactic arguments (an assumption not shared, for example, in Roll & Reference Grammar), then under this assumption, complements in the first
sense are a subclass of complements in the second sense. </span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Does this help at all? ˇV Best ˇV Juergen</span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org> on behalf of Lixin Jin <jinlixin@hotmail.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, May 9, 2023 at 8:13 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org <lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Lingtyp] what is designated by a complement claus</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt; font-family:"MS PMincho",serif; color:black">Dear ColleaguesˇA<br>
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The extension of the concept of complement is a bit ambiguous. I don't even know how to determine what a complement is sometimes. Perhaps different languages have different complements (e.g. Chinese complements). What is the definition of "complement" we are
talking about? Are the logical criteria for determining complements the same as those for attributive and adverbial? It would be interesting to know. Thanks!<br>
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