<div dir="ltr">Dear Juergen,<div>isiXhosa (Nguni, Bantu) is a counter-example. These examples come from a joint paper by me and Zoliswa Mali that came out in<i> Syntax</i> a couple of years ago (the bolding highlights an alternation in the marking of the causee that plays an important role in the paper; numerals in the glosses are for noun classes):</div><div><br></div><div><img src="cid:ii_lim4o02b0" alt="Screenshot 2023-06-07 at 3.53.39 PM.png" width="509" height="181"><br></div><div><img src="cid:ii_lim4oier1" alt="Screenshot 2023-06-07 at 3.54.04 PM.png" width="509" height="66"><br></div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Neil</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 2:57 PM Juergen Bohnemeyer <<a href="mailto:jb77@buffalo.edu">jb77@buffalo.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-7265540003041629087">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear all – It seems that languages with fully productive morphological causatives tend to lack syntactic (a.k.a. periphrastic/analytical) causatives. By ‘fully productive’, I mean crucially that the causative marker can be applied to already
transitive (and thus semantically causative) bases, and therefore can be used to express indirect causation. Examples of languages that have fully productive morphological causatives in this sense and lack periphrastic causative constructions include Chuvash,
Japanese, Hindi/Urdu, and Shawi (Cahuapanan, Peru). <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Two questions about the above generalization:<u></u><u></u></p>
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</span></span><u></u>Are there counterexamples?<u></u><u></u></p>
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</span></span><u></u>Are there statements of this generalization in the literature?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks! – Juergen<u></u><u></u></p>
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