<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Hi Volker, Pier Marco, Juergen, and Bernhard,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Many thanks for bringing this to my attention.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Yes, I think that mirativity is involved here because of the discourse contexts in which these examples are found. I have roughly 42 examples found in different fairy tales. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;margin:0in;text-align:justify;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">The fact that the <i>asta</i> ‘until’ clause is situated at the most unlikely point along a pragmatic scale of (un)likelihood with respect to contextually relevant alternatives may explain why expletive negation occurs in discourse contexts involving surprise, as in (1). In this example, <a name="_Hlk144370711">it is surprising that the rooster ran away from the coyote because he is not afraid of him. The presupposition triggered in (1) is that out of the two animals running away from the coyote (i.e., roadrunner and rooster), the rooster was the least likely to run away.</a> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;margin:0in;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;margin:0in;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Huasteca Nahuatl</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;margin:0in;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">(1)        <i>huankino         peh-ki              hueli    <a name="_Hlk144365503">motlaloa</a>          ne        pochakua</i>,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;margin:0in;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">            and.then          start-<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal">pfv</span>          big       run                   <span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal">det</span>      roadrunner</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;margin:0in;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">            ‘And then the roadrunner started running (when he saw the coyote)</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;margin:0in;text-indent:0.5in;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;margin:0in;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">            <i>huan    <b>asta      amo</b>     motlaloa-k       ne        kuapelech</i>.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;margin:0in;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">            and      until     <span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal">neg</span>      run-<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal">pfv            det      </span>rooster</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;margin:0in;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">            and even the rooster ran away (when he saw the coyote).’</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;margin:0in;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;margin:0in;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">            <i>achaka             tla-huel                        pensaro-ki</i></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;margin:0in;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Tim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waiting (for their neighbors).’</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">            <i>huankino         ach-ki-onkah               fiesta</i>,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">            and.then          <span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal">neg-3sg.obj</span>-be           party</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">            ‘So, the festival did not start,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">            <i>asta      <b>amo</b>     ki-asi-k-e</i>.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">            until     <span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal">neg      3sg.obj</span>-arrive-<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal">pfv-pl</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">            until they
(the neighbors) arrived.’</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.5in;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><i><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">amo
    nelia</span></i><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">.                           </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.5in;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal">neg</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">      true                  </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;line-height:normal">





























</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0in 0.5in;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">‘No one could
believe it.’</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;margin:0in;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Husteca Nahuatl</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">(3)      <i>ki-olini-ki                     nopa    tlaka-tl             pehua-yaya     i-cha</i>                </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">            <span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal">3sg.obj</span>-move-<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal">pfv</span>      <span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal">det</span>      man-<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal">abs</span>          start-<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal">ipfv</span>         <span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal">3sg.poss</span>-house</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">            ‘The man walked from his house,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">            <b><i>asta      amo</i></b><i>     ki-olini-ki                     pan      el         mar      iteno</i>.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">            until     <span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal">neg</span>      <span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal">3sg.obj</span>-move-<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal">pfv</span>      in         the       sea       shore</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">            to the shore.’</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">            <i>pero     pil-huehuen-tsi             pil-huehuen-tsi             pil-huehuen-tsi</i>.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">            but       elder-old-<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal">dim</span>              elder-old-<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal">dim</span>              elder-old-<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal">dim</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">            ‘The man is very very old.’</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">            <i>huankino         achaka             tla-huel                        pensaro-ki</i>.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">            and.then          nobody            <span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal">indef.obj</span>-could          think-<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal">pfv</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;margin:0in;line-height:normal">





























</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">            ‘And nobody could believe it
(because his house is far away from the shore).’</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;margin:0in;line-height:normal"><font face="Times New Roman, serif"><span style="font-size:16px">'Before' is expressed in Nahuatl by means of <i>kemah</i> 'when' and <i>ayokana</i> 'not yet'.</span></font></p></div></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;line-height:normal"><font face="Times New Roman, serif"><span style="font-size:16px"><br></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;line-height:normal"><font face="Times New Roman, serif"><span style="font-size:16px"><br></span></font></p></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 4:51 AM Volker Gast <<a href="mailto:volker.gast@uni-jena.de">volker.gast@uni-jena.de</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Hi Jesús,<br>
      expletive negation in combination with scalar additive operators
      is not uncommon, but only in downward entailing / non-veridical
      contexts.</p>
    <p>The following example from Quebec French, quoted from Labelle
      (2023, ex. [26c]), illustrates expletive negation in a relative
      clause modifying a superlative NP. <br>
    </p>
    <p>'Sept générations de petits nés dans les pires conditions que tu
      peux même pas imaginer.'</p>
    'Seven generations of kids born in the worst conditions that you
    can(not) even imagine.'
    <p>Expletive negation may certainly generalize from downward
      entailing to upward entailing contexts, specifically if mirativity
      or exclamation is involved (see Jürgen's comment).</p>
    <p>I agree with Pier Marco that your example looks strange. Was it
      taken from a (written) narrative? And do you have similar examples
      of that type? You'd have to rule out a temporal interpretation, as
      Pier Marco wrote, and ideally you should have intonational
      information, to understand any emotive meaning conveyed.</p>
    <p>It would also be good to have more information about the entire
      polarity system of Huasteca Nahuatl, and the distibution of
      expletive negation (for a typological approach, see for instance
      Jin & Koenig 2020).</p>
    <p>In any case, I do not consider it unlikely that expletive
      negation is found in combination with scalar additive operators in
      upward entailing contexts; but I would predict that in such cases,
      it will be found in downward entailing contexts, too.<br>
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    <p>Best,<br>
      Volker</p>
    <p>References<br>
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    <p>Labelle, M., (2023) “Apparent expletive negation, silent
      comparatives, and domain widening in Quebec French superlative and
      universal constructions”, <i>Glossa: a journal of general
        linguistics</i> 8(1). doi: <a href="https://doi.org/10.16995/glossa.9549" target="_blank">https://doi.org/10.16995/glossa.9549</a>.</p>
    <p>Jin, Yanwei and Koenig, Jean-Pierre. "A cross-linguistic study of
      expletive negation" <i>Linguistic Typology</i>, vol. 25, no. 1,
      2020, pp. 39-78. <a href="https://doi.org/10.1515/lingty-2020-2053" target="_blank">https://doi.org/10.1515/lingty-2020-2053</a></p>
    <div>Am 07.09.2023 um 00:00 schrieb Jesus
      Francisco Olguin Martinez:<br>
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          <div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia, serif">Dear all,</font></div>
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          <div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia,
              serif">I was wondering if you know any languages in which
              expletive negation appears in scalar additive
              constructions, as in (1).</font></div>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><font face="georgia, serif"><span style="color:black" lang="ES-MX">Huasteca Nahuatl </span><span lang="ES-MX"></span></font></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;text-align:justify;line-height:normal"><font face="georgia, serif">(1)       <i>huankino        
                  hualah-ki                     kuatochi</i>,          </font></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;text-align:justify;line-height:normal"><font face="georgia, serif">            and.then         
                come-<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal">pfv</span> 
                                    bunny</font></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;text-align:justify;line-height:normal"><font face="georgia, serif">            ‘The
                bunny came to the party,</font></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;text-align:justify;text-indent:0.5in;line-height:normal"><font face="georgia, serif"> </font></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;text-align:justify;text-indent:0.5in;line-height:normal"><font face="georgia, serif"><i>hua      <b>asta</b>      <b>amo</b>   </i><i>hualah-ki 
                      koxua-li</i>.</font></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;text-align:justify;text-indent:0.5in;line-height:normal"><font face="georgia, serif">and      until     <span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal">neg     
                </span>come-<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal">pfv</span>      
                turtle-<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal">abs</span></font></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;text-align:justify;line-height:normal"><font face="georgia, serif">                and
                even the turtle.’</font></p>
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          <div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia,
              serif">The expletive negative marker in (1) seems to have
              an interesting discourse function in scalar additive
              'until' clauses, and it seems that other Mesoamerican
              languages have developed similar constructions due to
              language contact. </font></div>
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              </font></span></div>
          <div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia,
              serif"><span style="text-align:justify;text-indent:0.5in">The
                fact that temporal ‘until’ markers may develop into
                scalar additive operators
                has not gone unnoticed (König 1991; </span>Jasionytė-Mikučionienė
              2019: 293)<span style="text-align:justify;text-indent:0.5in">.</span><span style="text-align:justify;text-indent:0.5in"> However,
                to the best of my knowledge, scalar
                additive ‘until’ clauses with expletive negation seem to
                be rare
                cross-linguistically. </span></font></div>
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          <div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia, serif"><span style="text-align:justify;text-indent:0.5in">Best,</span></font></div>
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          <div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia, serif"><span style="text-align:justify;text-indent:0.5in"><b>References</b></span></font></div>
          <div class="gmail_default"><span>Jasionytė-Mikučionienė,
              Erika. 2019. Subordinating conjunctions as discourse
              markers in Lithuanian. <i>Corpus Pragmatics</i> 3.
              285–301</span></div>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span>König, Ekkehard. 1991. <i>The
                  meaning of focus particles:
                  A comparative perspective</i>. London: Routledge.</span></p>
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V-ing’ clauses: Clausal negative concomitance in typological perspective. </span><i style="font-family:georgia,serif;text-align:justify"><span lang="ES-MX">Folia Linguistica</span></i><span lang="ES-MX" style="font-family:georgia,serif;text-align:justify">. <i>Acta
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language change: The case of Mixtec adverbial clauses. <i>Journal of Language
Contact. Evolution of Languages, Contact and Discourse</i> 15. 1-70.<br></font></div><div><font face="georgia, serif">Olguín Martínez, Jesús & Nicholas Lester.  2021. A
quantitative analysis of counterfactual conditionals in the world’s languages. <i>Italian
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