<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As I mentioned earlier the notion of (un)likelihood in regard to scalar additives has long been debunked (see e.g. Volker’s works).</div><div class="">So I am not sure whether the link you’re drawing there is necessarily tenable, at least not in a simple mapping of unlikelihood->surprise.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The example is very curious, though!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best,</div><div class="">Bastian</div><div class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Am 07.09.2023 um 12:18 schrieb Jesus Francisco Olguin Martinez <<a href="mailto:olguinmartinez@ucsb.edu" class="">olguinmartinez@ucsb.edu</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Hi Volker, Pier Marco, Juergen, and Bernhard,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Many thanks for bringing this to my attention.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Yes, I think that mirativity is involved here because of the discourse contexts in which these examples are found. I have roughly 42 examples found in different fairy tales. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0in; text-align: justify; line-height: normal;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">The fact that the <i class="">asta</i> ‘until’ clause is situated at the most unlikely point along a pragmatic scale of (un)likelihood with respect to contextually relevant alternatives may explain why expletive negation occurs in discourse contexts involving surprise, as in (1). In this example, <a name="_Hlk144370711" class="">it is surprising that the rooster ran away from the coyote because he is not afraid of him. The presupposition triggered in (1) is that out of the two animals running away from the coyote (i.e., roadrunner and rooster), the rooster was the least likely to run away.</a> </span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;margin:0in;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> </span></p><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0in; line-height: normal;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">Huasteca Nahuatl</span></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0in; line-height: normal;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">(1) <i class="">huankino peh-ki hueli <a name="_Hlk144365503" class="">motlaloa</a> ne pochakua</i>,</span></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0in; line-height: normal;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> and.then start-<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">pfv</span> big run <span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">det</span> roadrunner</span></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0in; line-height: normal;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> ‘And then the roadrunner started running (when he saw the coyote)</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;margin:0in;text-indent:0.5in;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> </span></p><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0in; line-height: normal;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> <i class="">huan <b class="">asta amo</b> motlaloa-k ne kuapelech</i>.</span></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0in; line-height: normal;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> and until <span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">neg</span> run-<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">pfv det </span>rooster</span></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0in; line-height: normal;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> and even the rooster ran away (when he saw the coyote).’</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;margin:0in;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> </span></p><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0in; line-height: normal;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> <i class="">achaka tla-huel pensaro-ki</i></span></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0in; line-height: normal;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> nobody <span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">indef.obj</span>-could think-<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">pfv</span></span></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0in; line-height: normal;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> 'Nobody could believe it.’</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;margin:0in;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> </span></p><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0in; line-height: normal;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> <i class="">mo-tlan-k-e ne kuapelech hua nopa koyote</i>.</span></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0in; line-height: normal;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> <span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">rec</span>-fight-<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">pfv-pl det</span> rooster and <span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">det</span> coyote</span></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0in; line-height: normal;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> ‘The rooster and the coyote always fight.’</span></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0in; line-height: normal;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; line-height: normal;" class=""><font face="Times New Roman, serif" class=""><span style="font-size:16px" class="">This is also attested in other types of 'until' constructions:</span></font></div><div style="margin: 0in; line-height: normal;" class=""><font face="Times New Roman, serif" class=""><span style="font-size:16px" class=""><br class=""></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0in; text-align: justify; line-height: normal; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="ES-MX" style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">Huasteca Nahuatl </span></div><div style="margin: 0in; text-align: justify; line-height: normal; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">(2) <i class="">mo-chich-k-e</i>.</span></div><div style="margin: 0in; text-align: justify; line-height: normal; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> <span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">refl</span>-wait-<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">pfv-pl</span></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; text-align: justify; line-height: normal; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> ‘They (the milpa workers) were
waiting (for their neighbors).’</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in; text-align: justify; line-height: normal; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> <i class="">huankino ach-ki-onkah fiesta</i>,</span></div><div style="margin: 0in; text-align: justify; line-height: normal; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> and.then <span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">neg-3sg.obj</span>-be party</span></div><div style="margin: 0in; text-align: justify; line-height: normal; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> ‘So, the festival did not start,</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in; text-align: justify; line-height: normal; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> <i class="">asta <b class="">amo</b> ki-asi-k-e</i>.</span></div><div style="margin: 0in; text-align: justify; line-height: normal; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> until <span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">neg 3sg.obj</span>-arrive-<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">pfv-pl</span></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; text-align: justify; line-height: normal; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> until they
(the neighbors) arrived.’</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in; text-align: justify; line-height: normal; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><i class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">amo
nelia</span></i><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">. </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in; text-align: justify; line-height: normal; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">neg</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> true </span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;line-height:normal">
</p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in; text-align: justify; line-height: normal; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">‘No one could
believe it.’</span></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0in; line-height: normal;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; line-height: normal; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">Husteca Nahuatl</span></div><div style="margin: 0in; line-height: normal; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">(3) <i class="">ki-olini-ki nopa tlaka-tl pehua-yaya i-cha</i> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in; line-height: normal; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> <span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">3sg.obj</span>-move-<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">pfv</span> <span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">det</span> man-<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">abs</span> start-<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">ipfv</span> <span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">3sg.poss</span>-house</span></div><div style="margin: 0in; line-height: normal; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> ‘The man walked from his house,</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in; line-height: normal; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> <b class=""><i class="">asta amo</i></b><i class=""> ki-olini-ki pan el mar iteno</i>.</span></div><div style="margin: 0in; line-height: normal; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> until <span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">neg</span> <span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">3sg.obj</span>-move-<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">pfv</span> in the sea shore</span></div><div style="margin: 0in; line-height: normal; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> to the shore.’</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in; line-height: normal; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> <i class="">pero pil-huehuen-tsi pil-huehuen-tsi pil-huehuen-tsi</i>.</span></div><div style="margin: 0in; line-height: normal; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> but elder-old-<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">dim</span> elder-old-<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">dim</span> elder-old-<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">dim</span></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; line-height: normal; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> ‘The man is very very old.’</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in; line-height: normal; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> <i class="">huankino achaka tla-huel pensaro-ki</i>.</span></div><div style="margin: 0in; line-height: normal; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> and.then nobody <span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">indef.obj</span>-could think-<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">pfv</span></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;margin:0in;line-height:normal">
</p><div style="margin: 0in; line-height: normal; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""> ‘And nobody could believe it
(because his house is far away from the shore).’</span></div><div style="margin: 0in; line-height: normal; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin: 0in; line-height: normal;" class=""><font face="Times New Roman, serif" class=""><span style="font-size:16px" class="">'Before' is expressed in Nahuatl by means of <i class="">kemah</i> 'when' and <i class="">ayokana</i> 'not yet'.</span></font></div></div></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><div style="margin: 0in; line-height: normal;" class=""><font face="Times New Roman, serif" class=""><span style="font-size:16px" class=""><br class=""></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0in; line-height: normal;" class=""><font face="Times New Roman, serif" class=""><span style="font-size:16px" class=""><br class=""></span></font></div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 4:51 AM Volker Gast <<a href="mailto:volker.gast@uni-jena.de" class="">volker.gast@uni-jena.de</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div class=""><p class="">Hi Jesús,<br class="">
expletive negation in combination with scalar additive operators
is not uncommon, but only in downward entailing / non-veridical
contexts.</p><p class="">The following example from Quebec French, quoted from Labelle
(2023, ex. [26c]), illustrates expletive negation in a relative
clause modifying a superlative NP. <br class="">
</p><p class="">'Sept générations de petits nés dans les pires conditions que tu
peux même pas imaginer.'</p>
'Seven generations of kids born in the worst conditions that you
can(not) even imagine.'
<p class="">Expletive negation may certainly generalize from downward
entailing to upward entailing contexts, specifically if mirativity
or exclamation is involved (see Jürgen's comment).</p><p class="">I agree with Pier Marco that your example looks strange. Was it
taken from a (written) narrative? And do you have similar examples
of that type? You'd have to rule out a temporal interpretation, as
Pier Marco wrote, and ideally you should have intonational
information, to understand any emotive meaning conveyed.</p><p class="">It would also be good to have more information about the entire
polarity system of Huasteca Nahuatl, and the distibution of
expletive negation (for a typological approach, see for instance
Jin & Koenig 2020).</p><p class="">In any case, I do not consider it unlikely that expletive
negation is found in combination with scalar additive operators in
upward entailing contexts; but I would predict that in such cases,
it will be found in downward entailing contexts, too.<br class="">
</p><p class="">Best,<br class="">
Volker</p><p class="">References<br class="">
</p><p class="">Labelle, M., (2023) “Apparent expletive negation, silent
comparatives, and domain widening in Quebec French superlative and
universal constructions”, <i class="">Glossa: a journal of general
linguistics</i> 8(1). doi: <a href="https://doi.org/10.16995/glossa.9549" target="_blank" class="">https://doi.org/10.16995/glossa.9549</a>.</p><p class="">Jin, Yanwei and Koenig, Jean-Pierre. "A cross-linguistic study of
expletive negation" <i class="">Linguistic Typology</i>, vol. 25, no. 1,
2020, pp. 39-78. <a href="https://doi.org/10.1515/lingty-2020-2053" target="_blank" class="">https://doi.org/10.1515/lingty-2020-2053</a></p>
<div class="">Am 07.09.2023 um 00:00 schrieb Jesus
Francisco Olguin Martinez:<br class="">
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<div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia, serif" class="">Dear all,</font></div>
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serif" class=""><br class="">
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<div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia,
serif" class="">I was wondering if you know any languages in which
expletive negation appears in scalar additive
constructions, as in (1).</font></div>
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serif" class=""><br class="">
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<div class="gmail_default"><div style="margin: 0in; text-align: justify; line-height: normal;" class=""><font face="georgia, serif" class=""><span style="" lang="ES-MX" class="">Huasteca Nahuatl </span><span lang="ES-MX" class=""></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0in; text-align: justify; line-height: normal;" class=""><font face="georgia, serif" class="">(1) <i class="">huankino
hualah-ki kuatochi</i>, </font></div><div style="margin: 0in; text-align: justify; line-height: normal;" class=""><font face="georgia, serif" class=""> and.then
come-<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">pfv</span>
bunny</font></div><div style="margin: 0in; text-align: justify; line-height: normal;" class=""><font face="georgia, serif" class=""> ‘The
bunny came to the party,</font></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;text-align:justify;text-indent:0.5in;line-height:normal"><font face="georgia, serif" class=""> </font></p><div style="margin: 0in; text-align: justify; text-indent: 0.5in; line-height: normal;" class=""><font face="georgia, serif" class=""><i class="">hua <b class="">asta</b> <b class="">amo</b> </i><i class="">hualah-ki
koxua-li</i>.</font></div><div style="margin: 0in; text-align: justify; text-indent: 0.5in; line-height: normal;" class=""><font face="georgia, serif" class="">and until <span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">neg
</span>come-<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">pfv</span>
turtle-<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps;font-variant-alternates:normal" class="">abs</span></font></div><div style="margin: 0in; text-align: justify; line-height: normal;" class=""><font face="georgia, serif" class=""> and
even the turtle.’</font></div>
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<div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia,
serif" class=""><br class="">
</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia,
serif" class="">The expletive negative marker in (1) seems to have
an interesting discourse function in scalar additive
'until' clauses, and it seems that other Mesoamerican
languages have developed similar constructions due to
language contact. </font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><span style="text-align:justify;text-indent:0.5in" class=""><font face="georgia, serif" class=""><br class="">
</font></span></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia,
serif" class=""><span style="text-align:justify;text-indent:0.5in" class="">The
fact that temporal ‘until’ markers may develop into
scalar additive operators
has not gone unnoticed (König 1991; </span>Jasionytė-Mikučionienė
2019: 293)<span style="text-align:justify;text-indent:0.5in" class="">.</span><span style="text-align:justify;text-indent:0.5in" class=""> However,
to the best of my knowledge, scalar
additive ‘until’ clauses with expletive negation seem to
be rare
cross-linguistically. </span></font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia, serif" class=""><span style="text-align:justify;text-indent:0.5in" class=""><br class="">
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<div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia, serif" class=""><span style="text-align:justify;text-indent:0.5in" class=""><b class="">References</b></span></font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><span class="">Jasionytė-Mikučionienė,
Erika. 2019. Subordinating conjunctions as discourse
markers in Lithuanian. <i class="">Corpus Pragmatics</i> 3.
285–301</span></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span class="">König, Ekkehard. 1991. <i class="">The
meaning of focus particles:
A comparative perspective</i>. London: Routledge.</span></p>
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change: The case of Mixtec adverbial clauses. <i class="">Journal
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