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Dear Östen, Lidia and all,</div>
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Just to attest to some (unsurprising) variation in Italian, presumably on a regional basis: in the context described by Östen, I would definitely say
<i>Oggi Maria spedi</i><b><i>va </i></b><i>la domanda</i>, with the imperfective past. In this way, I would merely being reporting on Maria's plan, while also implying that I don't know if she already submitted, is still planning on submitting today or whatever.
If I want to stress my lack of knowledge, I could also say <i>doveva spedire </i>
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In my strongest L2, European Portuguese, I would probably say <b><i>ia</i></b><i> submeter
</i>(lit. "was going to submit"). But this should of course be checked with a native speaker.<br>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org> on behalf of Cat Butz <Cat.Butz@hhu.de><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 15 February 2024 11:41<br>
<b>To:</b> Östen Dahl <oesten@ling.su.se><br>
<b>Cc:</b> lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org <lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lingtyp] Intuitions about inclusive time reference</font>
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<div class="PlainText">Hi Östen,<br>
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In German, I would say:<br>
Mary reich-t heute ihr-en Antrag ein.<br>
Mary hand-3:S:PRES today 3:F:POSS-ACC:S proposal in<br>
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In Bavarian, I would say:<br>
D=mary raih-d haid ia-n Àndròg ai.<br>
DEF:F:S=Mary hand-3:S:PRES today 3:F:POSS-ACC:S proposal in<br>
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In my L2 English, I would say:<br>
Mary is submitting her grant proposal today.<br>
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Modifications along the lines of "wollte einreichen / woidd airaiha" or <br>
"was going to submit" feel optional to me.<br>
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Best,<br>
---<br>
Cat Butz (she)<br>
HHU Düsseldorf<br>
General Linguistics<br>
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Am 2024-02-14 22:29, schrieb Östen Dahl:<br>
> I would like to ask for intuitions about the following, in one or more<br>
> languages that you are acquainted with.<br>
> <br>
> Suppose your colleague Mary said on Monday: "Tomorrow I'm going to<br>
> submit my grant proposal." Now it's about noon on Tuesday, and you<br>
> have no idea whatsoever of the time of the realization of her<br>
> intention. Maybe she did it in the morning, maybe she'll wait until<br>
> midnight, and maybe she's just doing it right now. How would you<br>
> express the sentence below in your language(s), replacing SUBMIT by a<br>
> suitable verb form? The idea is that you should try to use a maximally<br>
> simple and natural formulation without excluding any possibility.<br>
> <br>
> Today Mary SUBMIT her grant proposal<br>
> <br>
> All comments are welcome.<br>
> <br>
> Thanks in advance!<br>
> <br>
> - Östen<br>
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