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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"CMU Serif"">Dear Nigel – Actually, in Role & Reference Grammar, ‘control’ is used alongside ‘matrix coding’ instead of ‘raising’ (e.g., Bohnemeyer & Van Valin 2017). More to the point, the term ‘control’ does not
 imply a syntactic derivation, unlike its early Generative predecessor, ‘equi NP deletion,’ making me wonder whether that’s what you had in mind.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"CMU Serif"">And, while the so-called ‘tough’ construction represents an exception to the generalization that infinitives require control (I meant to restrict the generalization to complements anyway, but wrote
 in a hurry), I fail to see how that’s relevant to understanding the function of the type of construction the thread is about.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"CMU Serif"">Best – Juergen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-US" style="font-family:"CMU Serif"">Bohnemeyer, J. & R. D. Van Valin, Jr.
</span><span style="font-family:"CMU Serif"">(2017). The Macro-Event Property and the Layered Structure of the Clause.
<i>Studies in Language</i> 41(1): 142-197.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black">Nigel Vincent <nigel.vincent@manchester.ac.uk><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, April 24, 2024 at 02:26<br>
<b>To: </b>Christian Lehmann <christian.lehmann@uni-erfurt.de>, lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org <lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org>, Juergen Bohnemeyer <jb77@buffalo.edu><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Lingtyp] for-to infinitival<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:black">A couple of problems with Juergen's suggestion, one empirical and one terminological:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:black">the empirical problem is that there are instances of bare infinitives that aren't dependent on an argument in the matrix clause: 'It was fun to see everyone yesterday', 'It's hard to do that' - often
 called 'implicit control'<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:black">and terminologically the problem is that these days, even if one does not work within generative grammar, the term 'control' is commonly used in a pair with 'raising' so better not to use it for Christian's
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:black">Sorry not to be able to offer a more positive contribution to the discussion!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Professor Emeritus of General & Romance Linguistics<br>
The University of Manchester<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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School of Arts, Languages and Cultures<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org>
 on behalf of Juergen Bohnemeyer via Lingtyp <lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 23 April 2024 10:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Christian Lehmann <christian.lehmann@uni-erfurt.de>; lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org <lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lingtyp] for-to infinitival</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"CMU Serif"">Dear Christian – My assumption is that bare infinitives are subject to syntactic control (i.e., their unexpressed subject or pivot must be coreferential with a core argument of the matrix), and
 that the function of the type of construction you are interested in is to block/remove that control requirement, and thus for the argument of the infinitive that would be its subject/pivot in matrix to become expressible. Accordingly, the following terminological
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<p style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"CMU Serif"">I’m sure more creative folks than me can come up with more creative expressions of the basic idea.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black">Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org> on behalf of Christian Lehmann via Lingtyp <lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 07:10<br>
<b>To: </b>lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org <lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Lingtyp] for-to infinitival</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-left:1.0in">Dear colleagues,<br>
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as so often, my question is terminological in nature. Let's presuppose the structure and function of the English
<i>for ... to</i> infinitival. The property that is of relevance to me is that it allows its subject to be represented. Now Cabecar has a very similar construction:<br>
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<span style="font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:green">            Yís te ayë́́ kjuä́ tju̱-á̱ ijé yö́-n-a̱-klä.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:1.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif">1.sg erg book buy-pfv [3.ps form-mid-vsn-fin]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:1.0in">            ‘<span style="font-family:"Cambria",serif">I bought the book for him to study.’</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:1.0in">Like the English construction, it adds an operator - the suffix
<i>-klä</i> - to the plain infinitival - marked by the vacant subject nominalizer
<i>-a</i><i><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">̱</span></i>, which we could, to simplify the discussion, take to be an infinitive suffix. And the infinitival marked by
<i>-klä</i> differs from the plain infinitival exactly by not suppressing the subject argument and involving no phoric control by any component of the superordinate clause. Its syntax is also comparable to the Portuguese inflected (or personal) infinitive of
 the kind <i>para ele estudar</i> 'for him to study', <i>para estudarmos</i> 'for us to study'.<br>
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What do we call the <i>-klä</i> operator; and what do we call this infinitival? In most, though not all contexts, this infinitival indicates the purpose of the action of the superordinate clause. I had therefore considered calling it by the term of traditional
 grammar <i>final</i> (suffix and infinitival). Now this way is not open to me because this grammar (like most grammars, I presume) needs the term
<i>final</i> to designate something (including a finite or non-finite clause) that goes at the end of a syntagma.<br>
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The term that comes to mind is <i>purposive</i>. I am reluctant to adopt it, for the following reasons:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:1.0in">1) This infinitival does not always have a purposive function, as in the following example:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="color:green">            Jé o</span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:green">̱</span><span style="color:green">́-r=mi</span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:green">̱</span><span style="color:green">  Juan
 wa</span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:green">̱</span><span style="color:green"> i aláklä wä́yu-ä-klä.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:1.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">d.med do1-mid(ipfv)=pot [John dsp 3 woman cheat-vsn-fin]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:1.0in">            ‘<span style="font-family:"Cambria",serif">It is possible that John cheats on his wife.’</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:1.0in">(The diathesis of the non-finite construction is as if the transitive verb were in middle voice; DSP is a kind of agent postposition on 'John'.)<br>
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2) More generally, a term referring to the structure rather than to the function of the construction would be more useful. The decisive syntactic difference is that the infinitive marked by
<i>-klä</i>, while rearranging the valency a bit, does not reduce it. Thus, contrasting with 'vacant-subject nominalizer', it could be called 'valency-rearranging nominalizer'. Not very elegant, though; and 'valency-rearranged infinitival' sounds even worse.<br>
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3) The word <i>purposive</i> has never felt particularly elegant to me, in terms of standard derivational morphology [although I'm afraid that what reacts in me here is a Latin-speaker intuition rather than an English-speaker intuition].<br>
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If English grammarians call the construction a <i>for-to</i> infinitive, then I might call the Cabecar construction a
<i>-klä</i> infinitive. This however, would imply a bankruptcy declaration of linguistic analysis and would, moreover, not solve the problem of the interlinear gloss for
<i>-klä</i>.<br>
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Has anybody seen a good term for this kind of construction? Any help would be most welcome. Thanks in advance,<br>
Christian<br>
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<p style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Prof. em. Dr. Christian Lehmann<br>
Rudolfstr. 4<br>
99092 Erfurt<br>
Deutschland</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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