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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt">thank you very much for your comments, suggestions and biblio indications.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt">The data I’m gathering up about this phenomenon will become a section of a larger paper on “Light Words”, a concept that extends and generalizes the notion “Light Verbs” and “Light Nouns”, trying
to explain this phenomenon in a unified way. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt">When finished, my paper will be circulated on this list for comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt">Raffaele<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Emeritus Professor, Università Roma Tre<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Hon C Lund University<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Membre de l'Académie Royale de Belgique<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Chevalier de l'Ordre des Arts et des Lettres de France<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Accademico (corrispondente) della Crusca<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Prix de l'Institut de France-Fondation Bonnefous 2022<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Attività e pubblicazioni // Activity and publications
<a href="http://uniroma3.academia.edu/RaffaeleSimone">http://uniroma3.academia.edu/RaffaeleSimone</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Da:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Malcolm Ross <malcolmross42@gmail.com>
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<b>Inviato:</b> mercoledì 5 giugno 2024 02:04<br>
<b>A:</b> Raffaele Simone <raffaele.simone@uniroma3.it><br>
<b>Cc:</b> lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org<br>
<b>Oggetto:</b> Re: [Lingtyp] The type "la bellezza di cento euro"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Raffaele, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Constructions of this kind have played a role in the histories of some Oceanic Austronesian languages. See the attached paper.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">—Malcolm <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 31 May 2024, at 18:39, Raffaele Simone via Lingtyp <<a href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Ho speso<span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span><u>la bellezza</u><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span>di cento euro</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:35.4pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">“I spent a good one hundred euros”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Ho pagato questa casa<span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span><u>la miseria</u><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span>di centomila euro</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">“I paid a paltry one hundred thousand euros for this house”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Ha sposato<span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span><u>un tesoro</u><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span>di ragazzo</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Faccio<span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span><u>uno schifo</u><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span>di lavoro</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:35.4pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">A specifier + N1, a sort of “Light Noun” indicating a positive or negative property (<i>bellezza</i>,<i>tesoro</i>,<span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span><i>schifo</i><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span>ecc.)
of N2 +<span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span><i>di<span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span></i>+ N2, a noun representing the “semantic phrase head”, which the property indicated by N1 refers to.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:35.4pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Other constraints:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:35.4pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">b. some N1 (as<span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span><i>bellezza</i><span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span>in 1,<span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span><i>miseria<span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span></i>in
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:35.4pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Could you indicate to me similar NP structures in other languages?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:35.4pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thanks.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:35.4pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Raffaele (Simone)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">PS For Light Words, See Simone, R. & F. Masini. 2014. “On Light Nouns”.<span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">In
Simone, R. & F. Masini (eds).<span class="xapple-converted-space"> </span><i>Word Classes</i>. 51-74. Amsterdam & Philadelphia: John Benjamins.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Emeritus Professor, Università Roma Tre</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Attività e pubblicazioni // Activity and publications</span><a href="http://uniroma3.academia.edu/RaffaeleSimone"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">http://uniroma3.academia.edu/RaffaeleSimone</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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