<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">For anybody interested in reduplication, the dedicated Graz University database is very useful:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><a href="http://reduplication.uni-graz.at">http://reduplication.uni-graz.at</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Unfortunately, at present, the database is unavailable due to a hacking attack. But I've been told by Berhard Hurch that it should be (hopefully soon) reactivated.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Best<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Pier Marco</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno ven 12 lug 2024 alle ore 18:43 Raffaele Simone via Lingtyp <<a href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>> ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg6180926085023523476">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14pt">A very useful but scarcely known collection of studies on reduplication
<i>dans tous ses états</i> is “La réduplication”, special issue of <i>Faits de langue</i>, #39 2007, ed. by Alexis Michaud and Aliyah Morgenstern. Also “prototypical” reduplications are considered.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14pt">Raffaele<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Emeritus Professor, Università Roma Tre<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Attività e pubblicazioni // Activity and publications
<a href="http://uniroma3.academia.edu/RaffaeleSimone" target="_blank">http://uniroma3.academia.edu/RaffaeleSimone</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Per conto di </b>Paolo Ramat via Lingtyp<br>
<b>Inviato:</b> venerdì 12 luglio 2024 16:35<br>
<b>A:</b> Mark Donohue <<a href="mailto:mhdonohue@gmail.com" target="_blank">mhdonohue@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <<a href="mailto:LINGTYP@listserv.linguistlist.org" target="_blank">LINGTYP@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>> <<a href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org" target="_blank">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>><br>
<b>Oggetto:</b> Re: [Lingtyp] Evaluative morphology expressing "authenticity/prototypicality"<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><<<span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">The iteration /reduplication [...] can also have morphological functions such as plural formation (= ex. (1)), a distributive function(= ex. (2)), an intensifying
function (= examples (3) and (4)), or have particular semantic values such as the so-called ‘echo reduplication’, as in (5), etc.:</span><a name="m_6180926085023523476__ftnref1"></a><a href="#m_6180926085023523476__ftn1"><span><span class="m_6180926085023523476gmail-msofootnotereference"><sup><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">[1]</span></sup></span></span><span></span></a><span></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">(1)</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:7pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">Indonesian
<i>buku buku</i> “books” (Stolz 2003: 18)</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">(2)</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:7pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">Malti
<i>bieb bieb</i> lit. door door, i.e. “from door to door” (Stolz 2006a: 119)</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">(3)</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:7pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">It.
<i>un caffè caffè </i> “a real, good coffee” (Stolz 2003: 36; Ramat 2019: 151)</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">(4)</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:7pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">Emmi (Western Daly)
<i>dukandji “</i>big“ ~ <i>dukduk</i> “very big” (Louagie 2023: 555)</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">Turkish
<b><i>dergi mergi</i></b><i> okumuyor </i></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)"> Newspapers M:ECHO read:NEG:PRES
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">“(s)he does not read newspapers and the like’ (Stolz 2018: 248).</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="m_6180926085023523476__ftn1"></a><a href="#m_6180926085023523476__ftnref1"><span><span class="m_6180926085023523476gmail-msofootnotereference"><sup><span lang="FR" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">[1]</span></sup></span></span><span></span></a><span></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">Grandi (2017: 77) writes: «According to Medici (1959a: 84), the aim of a reduplicated construction such as
<i>caffè caffè </i>(‘coffee coffee’ [= our ex. (3)], P.Rt.) is “affermare […] la pienezza delle qualità inerenti [alla base]” (‘to state the fullness / completeness of the qualities of the base word’). In other words, the primary function of reduplication would
be to identify the prototype of a concept, its default value. If evaluative morphology (which includes intensification) encodes a deviation from a standard or from a default meaning, if its peculiar function is that of assigning a value which is different
from that of the ‘standard / default’ to a concept, reduplication primarily expresses a full identification of an item with its standard image. It identifies the best exemplar of a class».
A good overview of the multifarious functions of RED can be obtained when looking into the subject index of van Lier 2023: 1087, s.v. ‘reduplication’. Generally speaking, we can say that
RED is a widespread strategy in the world’s languages to express many related functions (see Fedriani 2017: 147).</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">Refernces:</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">Grandi, Nicola. 2017. Intensification processes in Italian. In Maria Napoli & Miriam Ravetto (eds.), 55-75.</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">Louagie, Dana. 2023. Word Classes in Australian Languages.
</span><span lang="FR" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">In Eva Van Lier (ed.), 544-571</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="m_6180926085023523476gmail-msofootnotetext" style="margin:0cm"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">Ramat, Paolo, 2019.Tautologia e/o reduplicazione.
<i>Rivista Italiana di Linguistica e Dialettologia,</i> 147-156.</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">Stolz, Thomas. 2003. A new Mediterraneism. Word iteration in areal perspective.
</span><i><span lang="DE" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">Mediterranean Language Review
</span></i><span lang="DE" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">15, 1-47.</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="m_6180926085023523476gmail-msofootnotetext" style="margin:0cm"><span lang="DE" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">Stolz, Thomas. 2006a. (Wort-)Iteration: (k)eine universelle Konstruktion. In Kerstin Fischer &
</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8pt;line-height:106%"><span lang="DE" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)"> Anatol Stefanowitsch (Hsgb.),
<i>Konstruktionsgrammatik. Von der Anwendung zur Theorie</i>: 105-132. </span>
<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">Tübingen: Stauffenburg. </span><span style="font-size:11pt;line-height:106%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">Stolz, Thomas. 2018. (Non-)Canonical reduplication. In Anna Urdze (ed.),
<i>Non-Prototypical Reduplication</i> ("Studia Typologica"22), 201-277. </span>
<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">De Gruyter Mouton: Berlin 2018.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">Van Lier, Eva (ed., 2023),
<i>The Oxford Handbook of Word Classes. </i>Oxford: Oxford University Press.</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(112,48,160)">Addendum: see also </span><i><span style="font-size:16pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Éllēnas</span></i><span style="font-size:16pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">
<i>Éllēnas</i> “a true Greek man” (</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Kallergi, Haritini. 2015.
<i>Total Reduplication as a category of expressives: (Counter)evidence from Modern Greek.
</i></span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Benjamins</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Jila Ghomeshi, Ray Jackendoff, Nicole Rosen and Kevin Russell. 2004. Natural Language & Linguistic Theory 22 (2): 307-357.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt">I’d like to add an example: When chairing your talk at our 2018 language typology forum (University of Sydney), Prof Christian Matthiessen introduced you as a ‘linguist linguist’ ;-)</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm curious to know if these prototypicalization morphemes sometimes evolve an intensifying function later. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Bardenstein and I have a paper in <i>Studies in</i> <i>Language
</i>46:2 (2022), where we trace the evolution of a number of intensifiers. Lo and behold, they evolve from expressions which narrow the application of the term to its central/prototpycal instances. Later on this narrower may evolve an intensifying function.
We only discuss independent modifiers, but reduplication, even morphological one, can indicate intensification:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lingtyp] Evaluative morphology expressing "authenticity/prototypicality"</span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> 3.SG-flap=<b>EXCT </b>3.SG-flap<u></u><u></u></p>
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Cabecar (Chibchan) has a a formative <i>sí</i><i><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">̱</span></i> with a twofold distribution:<br>
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a) As a derivational suffix on nouns, it means 'authentic', 'prototypical':<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin-left:36pt;break-inside:avoid;break-after:avoid"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif">dog-auth</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Cambria",serif"> ‘authentic dog’</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:green">b. ju-sí̱</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Cambria",serif"> ‘authentic/real/legitimate house (i.e. traditional Cabecar house)’</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">b) As an enclitic on adjectives, it means 'comparatively':<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin-left:36pt;break-inside:avoid;break-after:avoid"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif">nice=cmpr</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Cambria",serif"> ‘comparatively/truly nice’</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:green">b. daláá=sí̱</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:36pt;break-inside:avoid;break-after:avoid"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif">yellow=cmpr</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Cambria",serif"> ‘genuinely yellow’</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p>It fulfills this latter function in comparative constructions, too.<u></u><u></u></p>
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