<div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>Back in 1973 Andy Pawley noted the odd behaviour of directed motion verbs in Oceanic, observing that they can simultaneously be viewed as agentive (the moving person initiates the action) and patientive (the moving person undergoes a change of location). For this reason, they can be interpreted differently by different languages, including their behaviour with respect to aspectual classes, or what have you.</div><div><br></div><div>-Mark</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 3 Sept 2024 at 06:13, Sergey Loesov via Lingtyp <<a href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Dear colleagues, </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">In Modern Western Aramaic, an
endangered language spoken in Syrian Qalamoun mountains, verbs of telic intransitive
motion (those for ‘enter’, ‘go out of/leave’, ‘go up/ascend’, ‘go down/descend’,
‘go past’ [German ‘vorbeigehen]’) use their denominal Resultative/Perfective
form to encode the respective events <b>in progress</b> at the reference time,
quite like static verbs of perception (‘see’, ‘hear’) or body posture (‘lie’, ‘stand’,
‘sit’). Various other dynamic intransitives (e.g., the verbs for ‘fall’ or ‘pounce’,
and also ‘die’) use, quite expectedly, the denominal Imperfective for
progressive situations at the reference time, while their Perfective encodes Resultative,
Perfect, (past time) Evidential, etc. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I observe a similar picture in Levantine
Arabic dialects, in particular the Damascene. I wonder what is so special about
basic verbs of intransitive telic motion that they behave like statives? Have you ever seen something similar?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Thank you very much,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Sergey</span></p></div>
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