<div dir="ltr">Would we use these same terms for <div>'discover'/'uncover'?</div><div><br></div><div>What about</div><div>'walked'/'walks'?</div><div><br></div><div>How about</div><div>'unfair'/'unlikely'?</div><div><br></div><div>My point being, in what sense are these not just morpheme doing morpheme things?</div><div><br></div><div>If a language has, for example</div><div><br></div><div>ana 'child'</div><div>mo'ane 'man; male'</div><div>wowine 'woman; female'</div><div><br></div><div>ana mo'ane 'boy'</div><div>ana wowine 'girl'</div><div>(arguably single words for some purposes, despite the orthographic gap)</div><div><br></div><div>then my inclination is just to talk about morphemes doing morpheme things.</div><div><br></div><div>-Mark</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 30 Sept 2024 at 19:19, Guillaume Jacques via Lingtyp <<a href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Ian and colleagues,</div><div><br></div><div> "comorphemization" and the verb "comorphemize" look like an apt way of describing what you are looking for:</div><div><br></div><div>erzi comorphemizes nüer / erzi and nüer are in comorphemic relationship.</div><div><br></div><div>GJ<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le lun. 30 sept. 2024 à 11:11, JOO Ian via Lingtyp <<a href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org" target="_blank">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">



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<div>you’re right. But this is more about the lexemes erzi and nüer and not about er. I need a term that says the underlined part of “erzi and nüer
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But isn't the only reason <i>er</i> 儿 has two different meanings (at least synchronically) in these examples because of the modifying morphemes that they are compounded with? Otherwise they could be interpreted as just having one meaning: 'child'. Same Spanish
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<div>What I meant was cases like Spanish niño and niña or Chinese er-zi and nü-er, which mean son and daughter and share the same morpheme (niñ-, er, respectively), as opposed to English son and daughter which do not share any.</div>
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<div>I suppose you mean syncretism, which is where some morphological formative, e.g. a morpheme if that's your approach, covers multiple meanings or multiple cells in the paradigm which aren't captured by a single feature. Some people reserve the term for
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<div>Two meanings sharing one lexeme is known as colexification. Is there also a word for two meanings sharing one morpheme (but not necessarily the same lexeme), such as the lexemes for SON and DAUGHTER sharing the same morpheme?</div>
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