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Thanks so much! In a Tibeto-Burman language (Pangkhua, Bangladesh) I've worked on, the (distal) demonstrative has been grammaticalized as an article, while the nominalizer has come from the word for 'person/people'. However, in Pangkhua the predicate is often
marked by the proximal demonstrative and seems to indicate the strength of assertion or stance, a function that (clausal) nominalization usually serves. Given the more common cross-linguistic diachronic pathway of a
<i>distal</i> demonstrative (Juergen's data also confirms this) >article>nominalizer, marking a predicate by the
<i>proximal</i> demonstrative for a similar function like a nominalizer in Pangkhua is confounding. I'm not calling it nominalization, but this motivated me to look for data from other languages. </div>
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<b>To:</b> LINGTYP LINGTYP <lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org>; Zahid Akter <Zahid_Akter@outlook.com><br>
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I don't know if this is (directly) relevant to your query, but I would suppose "sheer" demonstrative/nominalizer multifunctionality is one thing, while another one is demonstrative/article/nominalizer. Since both demonstrative>article and article>nominalizer
are common diachronic changes, in principle I would expect the latter, three-way syncretism to be much more common (and potentially not relevant to what you are after?).</div>
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I’m looking for languages where demonstratives function as nominalizers. If you are aware of any such cases, I would greatly appreciate your references.</div>
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