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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US">Dear Jose, all,<span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US">I have written about "verbal
coordinations" in the Yuman language Maricopa (Gil 1991).<span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US">Another relevant case
might be the Riau Indonesian coordinator <i>sama </i>(Gil 2004).<span> </span>Under my analysis of Riau Indonesian there is
no noun/verb distinction; however, if you wish to impose such a distinction,
then many other usages of <i>sama</i> would probably also be described as "verbal".<span></span></span></p>
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<p class="gmail-ReferencesT" style="margin:0in;text-indent:0in;text-align:justify;font-size:12pt;font-family:Times"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Gil, David (1991) "Aristotle Goes to Arizona, And Finds a
Language without <i>And</i>", in D.
Zaefferer ed., <i>Semantic Universals and
Universal Semantics</i>, Foris Press, Berlin, 96-130.<span></span></span></p>
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<p class="gmail-ReferencesT" style="margin:0in;text-indent:0in;text-align:justify;font-size:12pt;font-family:Times"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Gil, David
(2004) "Riau Indonesian <i>sama</i>,
Explorations in Macrofunctionality", in M. Haspelmath ed., <i>Coordinating Constructions</i>, Typological
Studies in Language 58, John Benjamins, Amsterdam, 371-424.<span></span></span></p>
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<p class="gmail-ReferencesT" style="margin:0in;text-indent:0in;text-align:justify;font-size:12pt;font-family:Times"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Best,<span></span></span></p>
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<p class="gmail-ReferencesT" style="margin:0in;text-indent:0in;text-align:justify;font-size:12pt;font-family:Times"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">David<span></span></span></p>
</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 3:53 PM Jose Antonio Jodar Sanchez via Lingtyp <<a href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Dear all,<br><br>My colleague Andrey Drinfeld and I are looking at a group of verbs meaning 'and, with' in a family of Papuan languages, the Torricelli family. Instead of using linking devices such as conjunctions (e.g. English 'and') or affixes/clitics (e.g. Amharic -əm) to join two noun phrases, these languages use verbs which have pronominal affixes for either subject, object, or both. Examples from Walman and Yeri can be found in (1) and (2) respectively, with the 'and' verb in bold:<br><br>(1) [Runon <b>n-a-Ø</b> chu] y-an y-ayako-Ø klay-poch ...<br> 3SG.M <b>3SG.M.SUBJ-and-3SG.F.OBJ</b> wife <a href="http://3PL.SUBJ-be.at" target="_blank">3PL.SUBJ-be.at</a> 3PL.SUBJ-make-3SG.F.OBJ taro-porridge ...<br> ‘[He and his wife] were making taro porridge ...’ (Brown and Dryer, 2008: 529)<br><br>(2) Hem teipa dore m-nobia [Sila <b>w-odɨ-Ø</b> Lagosi].<br> 1sg then get.up 1sg-talk.R Sila <b>3SG.F-and.R-SG.F</b> Lagosi<br> ‘I got up and told [Sila and Lagosi].’ (Wilson, 2017: 333)<br><br>We have been operating under the assumption that this phenomenon is not attested outside the Torricelli family and a few Austronesian languages (such as Lamaholot), but we do not have concrete evidence one way or the other, and are considering the possibility that there may be other attestations of such a phenomenon elsewhere that have not gotten into the literature on this topic. We are wondering if anyone is aware of such a phenomenon being attested in other language families and parts of the world.<br><br>Best,<br><br>Jose.</div>
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