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--></style></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Dear David,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>That’s very interesting! <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>In the sign languages I know best (British Sign Language and Auslan – from the same sign language family), the attention-getting sign we gloss as HEY (a handshape with all fingers and thumb extended and held apart, palm oriented downwards, bending downwards at the wrist, held within eye-shot of another signer), the sign BECKON/COME-HERE (either the extended index, or all of the fingers, held palm upwards, bending repeatedly at the knuckles), and the second person pronoun (index finger pointing at the addressee) are all distinct signs that appear to have lexicalised/grammaticalised from related gestures used by hearing non-signers. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Is there any similarity between a beckoning/attention getting gesture used by Papuan non-signers and the sign variety you are studying?<br>Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Adam<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:black'>---<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:black'>Adam Schembri (he/him)<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:6.5pt;color:black'>Professor of Linguistics<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:6.5pt;color:black'>Corresponding Fellow, Australian Academy of the Humanities<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:6.5pt;color:black'>Bluesky: @adamcschembri.bsky.social/X: @adamcschembri<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:6.5pt;color:black'>Mobile phone: +44 7703 354 647<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:6.5pt;color:black'>University of Birmingham<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:6.5pt;color:black'>Department of Linguistics and Communication<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:6.5pt;color:black'>Personal website: <a href="https://sites.google.com/view/adamcschembri/home"><span style='color:#0563C1'>https://sites.google.com/view/adamcschembri/home</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:6.5pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>European Research Council project: <a href="http://www.signmorph.net"><span style='color:#0563C1'>www.signmorph.net</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:16.5pt'><span style='font-size:6.5pt;color:black'><a 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class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><i><span style='font-size:6.5pt;color:black'>If you have emailed me and are still waiting for a reply, please do not hesitate to get in touch again! Reminders are welcome. </span></i><i><span style='font-size:6.5pt;font-family:"Apple Color Emoji";color:black'>😊</span></i><span style='font-size:6.5pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org> on behalf of David Gil via Lingtyp <lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org><br><b>Reply to: </b>David Gil <dapiiiiit@gmail.com><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, 12 December 2024 at 10:54<br><b>To: </b>"LINGTYP@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG" <LINGTYP@listserv.linguistlist.org><br><b>Subject: </b>[Lingtyp] Query: 'come here' > 'hey' > 'you' path of grammaticalization<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>Dear all,</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>A few months ago I posted a query asking about a possible path of grammaticalization from 'come here' to an attention-attracting particle 'hey'. The query was motivated by the apparent existence of such a grammaticalization path in a Home Sign system that I am currently exploring in Papua.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>Subsequent work suggests that in the Papuan Home System in question, the same form may be undergoing further grammaticalization, assuming the role of a 2nd person pronoun or index. The entire path of grammaticalization may thus be represented as</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>'come here' > 'hey' > 'you'</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>My question: Is anybody familiar with other examples, from either signed or oral languages, of a similar path of grammaticalization, in which a 2nd person pronoun or index is derived from an attention-attracting particle and/or an expression meaning 'come here'. (For what it's worth, no such cases are listed in Heine and Kuteva's "World Lexicon of Grammaticalization".)</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>Thanks,</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>David</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><span class=gmailsignatureprefix>-- </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><pre>David Gil<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Senior Scientist (Associate)<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Department of Linguistic and Cultural Evolution<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Deutscher Platz 6, Leipzig, 04103, Germany<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Email: <a href="mailto:dapiiiiit@gmail.com" target="_blank">dapiiiiit@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Mobile Phone (Israel): +972-526117713<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Mobile Phone (Indonesia): +62-082113720302<o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________ Lingtyp mailing list Lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org https://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lingtyp <o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>