<div dir="ltr"><div>An important contribution to the discussion: </div><div><ol id="gmail-articlereference" class="gmail-articlereference-vancouver" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:11px;list-style:none;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Source Sans Pro",sans-serif;font-size:16px;padding-left:0px"><li class="gmail-refbody" id="gmail-right-ref-B73" style="box-sizing:border-box;font-size:1rem;padding:10px 0px"><span style="box-sizing:border-box"><div class="gmail-citation" style="box-sizing:border-box;display:inline"><div class="gmail-ref-content" style="box-sizing:border-box;display:inline"><span class="gmail-reference-surname" style="box-sizing:border-box">Seiler</span> <span class="gmail-reference-given-names" style="box-sizing:border-box">Hansjakob</span> <span class="gmail-reference-year" style="box-sizing:border-box;font-weight:bold">1978</span>. <span class="gmail-reference-article-title" style="box-sizing:border-box">Determination: a functional dimension for interlanguage comparison. </span><span class="gmail-reference-source" style="box-sizing:border-box;font-style:italic"><span class="gmail-reference-italic" style="box-sizing:border-box">Language Universals: Papers from the Conference Held at Gummersbach/Cologne, Germany, October 3–8, 1976</span></span> H Seiler <span class="gmail-reference-fpage" style="box-sizing:border-box">301–</span><span class="gmail-reference-lpage" style="box-sizing:border-box">28</span> Tübingen: Narr</div></div> </span><span class="gmail-js-references" style="box-sizing:border-box"><a href="http://scholar.google.com/scholar_lookup?title=Determination%3A+a+functional+dimension+for+interlanguage+comparison&author=H+Seiler&journal=Language+Universals%3A+Papers+from+the+Conference+Held+at+Gummersbach%2FCologne%2C+Germany%2C+October+3%E2%80%938%2C+1976&pages=301-28&publication_year=1978&" class="gmail-js-externallink" style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(47,94,131);text-decoration-line:none;outline:none">[Google Scholar]</a></span></li></ol></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Prof. Dr. Paolo Ramat</span><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div>Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei, Socio corrispondente<br><div>'Academia Europaea'</div><div>'Societas Linguistica Europaea', Honorary Member</div></div><div><div>Università di Pavia (retired)</div><div>Istituto Universitario di Studi Superiori (IUSS Pavia) (retired)</div></div><div><br></div></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">piazzetta Arduino 11 - I 27100 Pavia</div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">##39 0382 27027</div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">347 044 98 44</div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno sab 4 gen 2025 alle ore 13:33 Bobaljik, Jonathan David via Lingtyp <<a href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>> ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">



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<div>A recent review article which includes references to many of the older references mentioned by others so far is:</div>
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<div>Contras, G. 2023. Adjective Ordering Across Languages. Annu. Rev. Linguist. 9:357–76</div>
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<a href="https://doi.org/10.1146/annurev-linguistics-030521-041835" target="_blank">https://doi.org/10.1146/annurev-linguistics-030521-041835</a>
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Harvard University<br>
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<div>On Jan 4, 2025, at 13:00, <a href="mailto:lingtyp-request@listserv.linguistlist.org" target="_blank">lingtyp-request@listserv.linguistlist.org</a> wrote:</div>
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<div>I have come across multiple sources in popular media that the adjectives within an English noun phrase must follow this order: opinion-size-age-shape-color-origin-material-purpose.</div>
<div>For example, "a lovely (opinion) big (size) red (color) wood (material) house” and not “*a wood lovely red big house.”</div>
<div>What’s curious is that I couldn’t find any academic source for this (seemingly convincing) claim. I’m curious to know how strict it is a grammatical rule, what are the functional-cognitive explanations for it, and whether similar rules (or tendencies)
 are present in other languages.</div>
<div>If anyone could point to any relevant previous research, it would be much appreciated.</div>
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<div>From Otaru,</div>
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