<div dir="ltr">Dear Ian,<div><br></div><div>Jennifer Culbertson et al. 2020 have attempted a functional-cognitive explanation, see: Culbertson, J., Schouwstra, M., & Kirby, S. (2020). From the world to word order: Deriving biases in noun phrase order from statistical properties of the world. <i>Language </i>96(3), 696-717. <a href="https://dx.doi.org/10.1353/lan.2020.0045">https://dx.doi.org/10.1353/lan.2020.0045</a>.</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards, </div><div>Sasha</div><div><br></div><div>---</div><div><br>Aleksandrs Berdicevskis<br>Researcher, Associate professor<br>Språkbanken Text<br>Department of Swedish, Multilingualism, Language Technology<br>University of Gothenburg</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 at 13:08, Nikolas Gisborne via Lingtyp <<a href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hi, Ian,<div><br></div><div>Bob Dixon and Peter Matthews have both written about the order of English pre-nominal adjectives. See:</div><div><br></div><div>Dixon, R. M. W. 1982 Where have All the Adjectives Gone?: And Other Essays in Semantics and Syntax, Berlin, New York: De Gruyter Mouton. <a href="https://doi.org/10.1515/9783110822939" target="_blank">https://doi.org/10.1515/9783110822939</a></div><div>Matthews, P.H. 2014. The Positions of Adjectives in English. Oxford: Oxford University Press. <a href="https://global.oup.com/academic/product/the-positions-of-adjectives-in-english-9780199681594?cc=gb&lang=en&#" target="_blank">https://global.oup.com/academic/product/the-positions-of-adjectives-in-english-9780199681594?cc=gb&lang=en&#</a></div><div><br></div><div>All the best,</div><div>Nik</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 at 11:50, Paul Flanagan via Lingtyp <<a href="mailto:lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org" target="_blank">lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>I have come across multiple sources in popular media that the adjectives within an English noun phrase must follow this order: opinion-size-age-shape-color-origin-material-purpose.</div>
<div>For example, "a lovely (opinion) big (size) red (color) wood (material) house” and not “*a wood lovely red big house.”</div>
<div>What’s curious is that I couldn’t find any academic source for this (seemingly convincing) claim. I’m curious to know how strict it is a grammatical rule, what are the functional-cognitive explanations for it, and whether similar rules (or tendencies)
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