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<p>I feel that, for the sake of those who are even less versed in
Italian than I am, someone should mention that the Italian passive
with <i>venire</i> is one member of a paradigm with <i>andare</i>
as the other member, thus formally the well-known ventive-itive
contrast. Functionally, however, things are much more complicated;
apparently no deixis is involved.</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 23.02.2025 um 13:41 schrieb Sergey
Loesov via Lingtyp:<br>
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style="font-weight:normal">Dear colleagues,</span></strong></p>
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style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Are
you aware of <strong><span style="font-weight:normal">COME-passives</span></strong>
in
any of the world’s languages? In Kurmanji, a North-West
Iranian language, the
passive voice is formed using the verb <em>hatin</em>
(‘to come’), which is fully conjugated for all TAM forms,
followed by the
infinitive. This construction appears to be <strong><span
style="font-weight:normal">diachronically young</span></strong>,
because Kurmanji has a split ergative alignment. Its preterit
base (from which
the infinitive seems to be formed secondarily) is a reflex of
the <em><span style="font-style:normal">PIU resultative
participle in </span>-ta</em>, and
the choice between the ergative and the absolutive depends
entirely on the
inherent transitivity of the verb.</p>
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you very much,</p>
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