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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">My late colleague Susan Guion co-authored an article with Ratree Wayland in 2003 about how airflow in onset trills can condition tonogenesis, falling tone in their example. Searching for trills and tonogenesis
brings up other examples, apparently not all of falling tone. So trills and pitch do seem to be connected, at least diachronically.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/252900702_Aerodynamic_Coarticulation_in_Sound_Change_or_How_Onset_Trills_Can_Condition_a_Falling_Tone">https://www.researchgate.net/publication/252900702_Aerodynamic_Coarticulation_in_Sound_Change_or_How_Onset_Trills_Can_Condition_a_Falling_Tone</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
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<b>Date: </b>Monday, March 3, 2025 at 5:33</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">AM<br>
<b>To: </b>lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org <lingtyp@listserv.linguistlist.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Lingtyp] Correlation between trills and pitch (JOO Ian)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">If this helps, you can find some spectrograms of words with bilabial trills from Ahamb here: <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/share.eva.mpg.de/index.php/s/ngPE9xj5mQzpXPp__;!!C5qS4YX3!Cm-Uq91OYtCFEbTPMRcwzuXJJp1uIcT9QUKTWhq3T3sYzYml3GU7WaZjzhF2q5DJNyJw5Eka2N6wl51RtHJeuO3kS3ag$">https://share.eva.mpg.de/index.php/s/ngPE9xj5mQzpXPp</a>
. As far as I can tell, pitch does not appear to be substantially affected at trills. Female speaker in her 30s.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Tihomir <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Subject: [Lingtyp] Correlation between trills and pitch<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">When I was practicing singing with my choir, I noticed that it's much harder to articulate trills (bilabials or alveolar, neither of which is in my native lect) when the pitch goes up.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Is there any articulatory correlation between trill articulation and pitch, and if so, is it phonologically reflected in any lect? (For example, restricted distribution of high tones on syllables with trills?)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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