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<p>Maybe one could recommend the Fridman podcast with Edward Gibson,
on all kinds of topics (including LLMs): </p>
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<p>Best,</p>
<p>Martin</p>
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fall for the "AI hype" going around, let alone the idea that
someone as deep in the sauce of "AGI" mania as Hassabis would
have anything insightful to tell us about how language works.
Also, in case you're not familiar, Lex Fridman's podcast is an
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