6.1477, Qs: Mandarin, Tonal variation, Articles&Time Expressions

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LINGUIST List:  Vol-6-1477. Sun Oct 22 1995. ISSN: 1068-4875. Lines:  102
 
Subject: 6.1477, Qs: Mandarin, Tonal variation, Articles&Time Expressions
 
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Date:  Thu, 19 Oct 1995 14:31:17 BST
From:  wcli at vax.ox.ac.uk
Subject:  Mandarin pronunciation
 
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Date:  Thu, 19 Oct 1995 16:21:28 +0800
From:  g8380205 at simon.pu.edu.tw (lg2a)
Subject:  Research  requirement!
 
3)
Date:  Thu, 19 Oct 1995 22:43:17 EDT
From:  amr at CS.Wayne.EDU (Alexis Manaster Ramer)
Subject:  Query: Articles and Time Expressions
 
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Date:  Thu, 19 Oct 1995 14:31:17 BST
From:  wcli at vax.ox.ac.uk
Subject:  Mandarin pronunciation
 
Hi,
 
Does anyone know of any word lists, articles, or sources of any sort
on the literary and colloquial strata of pronunciation in Modern
Beijing Mandarin?  I am interested not in individual words or phrases,
but in the differences between the two phonological systems.  If there
is anything on pronunciations present in one stratum, but not in the
other, I'd be most grateful.
 
 
Wen-Chao Li
Lady Margaret Hall, Oxford
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Date:  Thu, 19 Oct 1995 16:21:28 +0800
From:  g8380205 at simon.pu.edu.tw (lg2a)
Subject:  Research  requirement!
 
	I am going to do a research about the relationship between
network and tonal variation.  Therefore, I would like to know if there
is any research, book,or journal about the topic that I mentioned.
 
 
 
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Date:  Thu, 19 Oct 1995 22:43:17 EDT
From:  amr at CS.Wayne.EDU (Alexis Manaster Ramer)
Subject:  Query: Articles and Time Expressions
 
Does anybody know why we cannot say:
 
    I danced with her the day.
    I danced with her on the day.
    I worked there the year.
    I worked there in the year
 
whereas corresponding sentences with a demonstrative _that_
in place of the article _the_ are fine?  Or if anybody has
done any work on this?  Or whether there is a language
which is otherwise sufficiently like English so it makes
sense to ask for literal equivalents of these examples,
where the same judgements do not hold (all the languages
I know seem to behave the same as English)?
 
I will summarize any responses and I promise not to use
them on any homework assignment or exam,
 
Alexis Manaster Ramer
Professor,
Dept. of Computer Science
Linguistics Program
Center for Peace and Conflict Studies
Wayne State University
Detroit, MI 48202, USA
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