10.256, Qs: Trendy language, Logophoric pronouns

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LINGUIST List:  Vol-10-256. Wed Feb 17 1999. ISSN: 1068-4875.

Subject: 10.256, Qs: Trendy language, Logophoric pronouns

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Date:  Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:10:06 +0100
From:  "KLiNg0n" <storno at fido.hu>
Subject:  trendy things that influenced everyday English

2)
Date:  Wed, 17 Feb 1999 13:03:43 -0500
From:  saint-pierre <saint-pierre.madeleine at uqam.ca>
Subject:  Query: quotations and reference

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Date:  Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:10:06 +0100
From:  "KLiNg0n" <storno at fido.hu>
Subject:  trendy things that influenced everyday English

Dear subscribers,

I posted a query some days ago about the effect of
computer/internet use of language on everyday English.
(Which is still relevant.) I have a second question now:
I wonder if anyone knows of any works that describe
how popular, trendy things, important historical or
cultural events influenced general, everyday use of
English in the past and/or provides factual information
on this subject.

My email address is: storno at fido.hu

Thank you,

Attila




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Date:  Wed, 17 Feb 1999 13:03:43 -0500
From:  saint-pierre <saint-pierre.madeleine at uqam.ca>
Subject:  Query: quotations and reference

Dear linguists,

I am currently working on my MA thesis, which is about the verb for
'say' in Fongbe.
In this language, there are logophoric pronouns. One could say that
their use is to disambiguate the reference in quotations introduced by
'say':

    e    do    e    na    wa
    he  say   he  IRR come
    'he(i) says he(j) will come'

    e    do    emi    na    wa
    he  say   LOG IRR  come
    'he(i) says he(i) will come'

Now, in english, when the subjects of both the main and the subordinate
clause are of the same form, we have an ambiguity, which is absent in
direct quotations (where reference must be disjoint):

    John(i) says (that) he(i/j) will come

    John(i) says : 'He(*i/j) will come'

Has any work been done (in any field) about the difference in the
interpretation of pronouns between direct and indirect quotatoins? I
know Davidson and Partee worked on quotatoins, but they didn't seem to
mention anything about how reference behaves in these contexts...
My email is r36530 at er.uqam.ca. I'll post a summary of the answers.

Thank you

Olivier Tardif
dpartement de linguistique
Universit du Qubec  Montral

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