12.1312, Qs: "Up" & "Down", Conjunctions with "que"/Fr.

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Subject: 12.1312, Qs: "Up" & "Down", Conjunctions with "que"/Fr.

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Date:  Fri, 11 May 2001 13:19:47 -0400
From:  Marc Picard <picard at vax2.concordia.ca>
Subject:  Up and down

2)
Date:  Sat, 12 May 2001 08:43:39 +0200
From:  Mullen John <johnmullen at noos.fr>
Subject:  Conjunctions with "que" in French

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Date:  Fri, 11 May 2001 13:19:47 -0400
From:  Marc Picard <picard at vax2.concordia.ca>
Subject:  Up and down



While at a baseball game with a (non-linguist) friend of mine the other
night, he asked me why balls were hit 'down the line' but 'up the
alley' (right-center or left-center field). Although I have some idea
of why we say things like 'up north' and 'down south', I had
to admit I had no clue about the use of up and down in that context. Can
anybody suggest anything that I can pass along? Also, a reference or two
on how all this stuff works in general would be welcome.

Marc Picard


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Date:  Sat, 12 May 2001 08:43:39 +0200
From:  Mullen John <johnmullen at noos.fr>
Subject:  Conjunctions with "que" in French

Dear colleagues,
I am interested in compiling a list of informal/non-standard
conjunctions in conversational French. For example, in the following
sentence

On va y aller plus tôt, histoire qu'il ne nous engueule pas.

"histoire que" seems to be a non-standard conjunction, but acceptable in
that no-one would question it in conversation.

This list includes "déjà que", "même que"  and many others. If linguists
have examples, I would be pleased to hear.

Dr John Mullen
Univ Paris  12 Val de Marne

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