12.1452, Qs: Romance Langs' Names, "Part of Speech" Concept

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Subject: 12.1452, Qs: Romance Langs' Names, "Part of Speech" Concept

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1)
Date:  Wed, 30 May 2001 15:59:32 +0400
From:  "jirik" <jirik at userline.ru>
Subject:  Names of Romance languages

2)
Date:  Wed, 30 May 2001 14:53:56 +0100 (BST)
From:  jre at comp.leeds.ac.uk
Subject:  parts of speech

-------------------------------- Message 1 -------------------------------

Date:  Wed, 30 May 2001 15:59:32 +0400
From:  "jirik" <jirik at userline.ru>
Subject:  Names of Romance languages

Dear romanists and Romance-speakers,
For Linguasphere project we want to gather names of Romance languages in
these languages (autoglottonyms). If you are speaker of or specialist in
certain Romance language or dialect, please write name of this language in
this language. If there's some orthography for it let the name follow it, if
there's not, please use transcription (for example, as indicated in the end
of this message). If we know autoglottonyms we give them after '-' (hyphen),
and we don't know any for languages marked with '?'. Also if you know
another autoglottonym or you see a mistake please inform us too.

GALICIAN   - galego
PORTUGUESE - português
Portuguese-N. - ?
Brasilian - brasileiro
Madeiran - madeirense
Azorian - açoriano
?? - a fala de xálima

ASTURLEONESE - ?
Asturian - Asturianu
Asturian-W. - ?
Asturian-C. - ?bable
Asturian-E. - ?
Leonese - lleonés
Mirandese - Mirandés

SPANISH - Español, or Castellano
Cantabrian - ?
andaluzian - andaluziano
extremaduran - ehtremeñu
American (Spanish) - ?americano
Canarian - ?
Guinean - ?

ARAGONESE - Aragonés
Navarrian - navarrés
Upper Aragonese - altoaragonйs
south Aragonese - ?
north Aragonese - ?
east Aragonese - ?

JUDEO-SPANISH, Sephardic - djudezmo, djidió, spanyol
literary form of Judeo-Spanish - ladino
Moroccan Judeo-Spanish - hakitia
Algerian-Tunisian Judeo-Spanish - tetauni

CATALAN - Català
western Catalan - ?
Valencian -  Valencià
eastern Catalan - ?
Roussillonese - ?
Balearic - ?
Algherian - ?

GASCON - gascou
béarnais - biarnés
bigourdan - bigordan
commingeois -  comengés
couseranais -  couseranés
aranais, aranois -   aranés

OCCITAN, langue-d'oc -  ?
languedocian - lengadocian
provençal - prouvençau
niçard, niçois - nissart
provençal alpin oriental, provençal d'Italie, cisalpine oc - ?
gavot, vivaro-alpin - gavouot
vivaro-alpin occidental, vivaro-dauphinois - ?
auvèrnhat, auvergnat - awvernya
limousin - lemozin
parlers du Croissant -  marchois

LANGUES D'OÃL, north gallo-romance - ?
French - Français
Dialect of île-de-france - francien
parlange - ?
poitou  - poitevin
saintongeais - ?
charentais - ?
gallot, gallèse - gallo
(north) Norman - normand
south normand - ?
channel islands french, anglo-normand - ?
picar - picard
walloon - wallon
champenois -  champaignat
lorrain (roman) - lorrain
welsch (Alsace) -  welche
comtois, north franc-comtois -  jurassien
bourgoundian - bourguignon
morvandeau - morvandiau
berrian - berrichon
bourbonnais - ?
orléanais - ?
angevin - ?
tourangeau - ?
acadian - acadjin
cajan - cajun
traditional canadian french -  canadien

FRANCO-PROVENÃ(++)AL, arpitan, romand - ?
jurassien-méridional - franc-comtois
lyonnais - ?
dauphinois-N. - ?
savoyard - ?
vaudois - ?
valaisan - valaisan
language of Val d'Aosta, valdostano - valdôtain

(Swiss) ROMANISH - Rumantsch, Grischun
surselvan - sursilvan
sutselvan - sutsilvan
surmeiran - surmiran
engadine - ?Ladin
Upper Engadine - puter
Lower Engadine - vallader
Muensterish - jauer
lacesian (west of Alto Adige, extinct) - ?

GALLO-ITALIAN - ?
Piedmontese - ?
turinese - ?
Lombard - ?
western Lombard - ?
milanese - ?
eastern Lombard - ?
trentino-W. - ?
alpine Lombard - ?
ticinese - ?
Nones, Anaunico - ?
soles  - ?
Trentino-C. - ?
Ligurian, ligure - ?
genoese, genovesi - ?
monegasque - ?
brigasc - ?
Emilian-Romagnolo - ?
emilian - ?
romagnolo  - ?
'gallo-italico de basilicata' - ?
'gallo-italico de sicilia'  - ?

(Dolomite) LADIN - ?
badian - badiot
Lower Badiot - ?Ladin
gardenian - gherdeina
Fascian - fashan
fiemmese - fiamazzo
? - fodom
Ampezan - anpezan
cordevolian - ?
cadorino - ?
agordino - ?
zoldano - ?
comelico - ?

VENETO, Venet - ?
veneto-N. - ?
veneto-C. - ?
veneto-W. - ?
Veronese - ?
E. Trentino - ?
veneto lagunare - ?
venetian (dialect of Venice) - ?
'colonial' veneto - ?
bisiacco - ?
gradese - ?
Venet of Friul cities - ?
triestino - ?
Istrian Venet - ?
Dalmatian Venet - ?

FRIULAN - furlan
carnico - ?
W. Friulan - ?
E. Friulan - ?
goriziano - ?

ISTRIOT (SW Istria) - ?

CENTRAL ITALIAN - ?
Italian  - Italiano
Tuscan - toscano
fiorentino - ?
senese - ?
aretino - ?

MEDIAN, mediano - ?
Median-NW. - ?
marchesan-C., anconitano -  ?
umbrian-N. - ?
Median-W. - ?
umbrian-SW. - ?
laziale-NW., viterbese - ?
Median-SE. - ?
romanesco (dialect of Rome) - ?

CORSICAN, corse - ?
cismontano, Corsican-N. - ?
ultramontano, Corsican-S. - ?

SOUTHERN ITALIAN, meridionale - ?
Abruzzese  - ?
molisano - ?
Campano - ?
neapolitan, napoletano -  ?
Pugliese - ?
Lucano - ?
Calabrese-N. - ?

EXTREME SOUTHERN ITALIAN, Meridionale Estremo - ?
Salentin - ?
Calabrese-CS. - ?
Sicilian - ?
eolian - ?
pantesco - ?

SARDINIAN-N. - ?
Gallurese - ?
Sassarese - ?

SARDINIAN-CS. - ?
Logudorese - ?
logudorese-C. - ?
logudorese-SE. - ?
logudorese-NW. - ?
Nuorese - ?
Arborean - ?
Campidanese - ?
campidanese-NC. - ?
cagliarino - ?
sulcitano - ?
campidanese-C. - ?
barbarician-S. - ?
ogliastrino - ?
sarrabusian - ?

Dalmatian - ?
vegliot - veklisuN
ragusan - ?

ROMANIAN - romaneasca
walachian - ?
muntenian - ?
oltenian - ?
banat - ?
transylvanian - ?
crishanan - ?
maramuresh - ?
bucovinan - ?
moldavian - ?

ISTRO-ROMANIAN - ?
zhejane, Istro-Romanian-N. - ?
Istro-Romanian-S. - ?

AROMANIAN - ?
pindian - ?
gramostian - ?
farsherot - ?
moscopolian - ?
muzekian - ?

Megleno-Romanian - ?

Symbols:
-N. = northern; -S. = southern;
-W. = western; -E. = eastern; and so on.

Possible transcription:
c = z like in German
dz = like voiced Italian 'z'
c^ = ch like in English 'chat'
j^ = j like in English 'jam'
s^ = sh like in English 'shop'
z^ = j like in French

x = ch like in German 'auch'
gh = g like in Spanish 'lago'

t^ = th like in English 'think'
d^ = th like in English 'then'

nh = gn like in French
lh = gl like in Italian 'vegla'

y = y like in English 'yes'
w = "wider" like in English

u: = u like in French
o: = eu like in French
a: = a like in English 'cap'
i^ = like Romanian 'i with circumflex'
a~, o~, etc = nasal vowels, like in French 'quand, tomb'
o^, e^ = close o, e like in German 'Wohne, Zehn'
o', e' = open o, e like French 'au, ai'

Linguasphere Observatory
Wales - Moscow



-------------------------------- Message 2 -------------------------------

Date:  Wed, 30 May 2001 14:53:56 +0100 (BST)
From:  jre at comp.leeds.ac.uk
Subject:  parts of speech

Greetings all

As part of my research, I am investigating 'universal properties' of
language.

My question is:

Many languages are described in terms of having parts of speech, but
how indigenous is this tagging? Is it a true reflection of the
structure of the language or simply something forcibly applied by
foreign (especially classical mediterannean) grammarians?

I am aware of that Doinysius Thrax is attributed with the concept in
100BC but did the concept also evolve independently in cultures
isolated from such influences?


Cheers,

John
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John Elliott
Centre for Computer Analysis of Language and Speech
University of Leeds
email: jre at scs.leeds.ac.uk
phone: 0113 233 6827
Web-site http://www.scs.leeds.ac.uk/jre
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