13.423, Qs: Communicative Lang Teaching, "and"/Causal Uses

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Subject: 13.423, Qs: Communicative Lang Teaching, "and"/Causal Uses

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Date:  Fri, 15 Feb 2002 21:34:38 +0800
From:  "jinys" <jinys at nwnu.edu.cn>
Subject:  Controversies Between the Criticisers and the Proponents of Krashen
         and the Communicative Language Teaching

2)
Date:  Fri, 15 Feb 2002 15:27:15 +0000
From:  Julian Bradfield <jcb at dcs.ed.ac.uk>
Subject:  causal/resultative use of "and"

-------------------------------- Message 1 -------------------------------

Date:  Fri, 15 Feb 2002 21:34:38 +0800
From:  "jinys" <jinys at nwnu.edu.cn>
Subject:  Controversies Between the Criticisers and the Proponents of Krashen
         and the Communicative Language Teaching



Dear Linguist,

I've been doing a research into the controversies between the
criticisers and the proponents of Krashen and the communicative
language teaching(CLT).

The main part of my paper is almost ready as I've got indirect
confirmations for my views from articles by Chinese scholars.  My
difficulty is: I have access only to articles in Chinese but no access
to Western books or articles, not even "TESOL" or "Applied
Linguistics".  I'm wondering if any friend could be so kind as to send
me by email attachments: the most important articles containing
serious chalenges to Krashen and CLT and the rebuttals/adjustments by
Krashen and CLT.  I've chosen this topic because it seems to me that
these controversies must be solved before Applied Linguistics can hope
to make any progress.

The articles could be sent in formats: txt(plain text), rtf,
doc(Word), pdf, zip.

Sincere thanks for your kind help!
Yu-shi Jin
Professor, retired
Northwest Normal University
Email  <jinys at nwnu.edu.cn>
Phone: 86-931-7972921

Postal address:
Jin Yu-shi,
104 Building 11,
Northwest Normal University,
Lanzhou,
PR CHINA     730070





-------------------------------- Message 2 -------------------------------

Date:  Fri, 15 Feb 2002 15:27:15 +0000
From:  Julian Bradfield <jcb at dcs.ed.ac.uk>
Subject:  causal/resultative use of "and"

This is a question that has come up on another list, while discussing
the translation of idiomatic uses.					

In English, and all other languages known to the participants so far,
the word "and" can have a causal or resultative meaning, as in
 Give me the money and I'll let you go.

The question arose, is there any language in which the word for "and"
in its plain boolean sense, or in its plain temporal sequencing sense,
*cannot* be used in the causal sense?

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