13.111, Qs: Double Aspectual Constructions, "They"

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Subject: 13.111, Qs: Double Aspectual Constructions, "They"

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1)
Date:  Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:04:15 +0000
From:  jlc115 <jlc115 at york.ac.uk>
Subject:  Double Aspectual Constructions

2)
Date:  Tue, 8 Jan 2002 12:51:07 -0600
From:  "carljweber" <carljweber at msn.com>
Subject:  "They"

-------------------------------- Message 1 -------------------------------

Date:  Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:04:15 +0000
From:  jlc115 <jlc115 at york.ac.uk>
Subject:  Double Aspectual Constructions

I am working on the syntax of Double Aspectual Constructions like (1):

(1) He could have not have done that.

These are found in dialects of Scottish English and in dialects from the
North East of England.  Does anyone know if these constructions are also
possible in any dialects of American English?  Also, would anyone who
uses these constructions be willing to give some judgements?

Please reply to me directly.

Thanks,
Joanne Close





-------------------------------- Message 2 -------------------------------

Date:  Tue, 8 Jan 2002 12:51:07 -0600
From:  "carljweber" <carljweber at msn.com>
Subject:  "They"


Given all that the OED says about "they" (and other pronouns) --
Your comments are appreciated.

1. What is the evidence behind the OED's presentation that "they" is Danish?
(a) Is it a "probably" type conclusion? (b) Is it based on similarity of
forms only?
2. Why was the older nominative all-genders plural pronoun replaced at all?
Were there developmental constraints, the result of reorganization during
the period of Norman dominance?

This "they" pronoun seems to have been the only trespasser into "basic"
English (with the other th-plurals later following). Has any native source
been suggested?

Carl Jeffrey Weber

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