15.2999, Qs: Initial Stressed Syllables; Greek Verse/Meter

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Subject: 15.2999, Qs: Initial Stressed Syllables; Greek Verse/Meter

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1)
Date: 21-Oct-2004
From: Vadim Cherny < vadim_lv at center-tv.net >
Subject: Origin of the initial-stress-syllable nouns?

2)
Date: 20-Oct-2004
From: Mike Szelog < Mike.Szelog at CITIZENSBANK.com >
Subject: Greek Verse/Meter


	
-------------------------Message 1 ----------------------------------
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:47:40
From: Vadim Cherny < vadim_lv at center-tv.net >
Subject: Origin of the initial-stress-syllable nouns?

Dear Listmembers,

Could anyone explain me or refer to a relevant publication explaining the origin
of the initial-stress nouns? What is the linguistic process underlying the
accent shift to the first syllable specifically in order to denote nouns? Does
it have to do with iambic rhyme, since nouns are routinely preceded by an
article, thus both recOrd and a-rEcord have iambic stress?


Sincerely,

Vadim Cherny

Linguistic Field(s): Phonology


	
-------------------------Message 2 ----------------------------------
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:47:42
From: Mike Szelog < Mike.Szelog at CITIZENSBANK.com >
Subject: Greek Verse/Meter

	Hello all,

I'm not sure this is the appropriate forum, but I'm looking for some help
with Greek verse/meter.

What I have is a Greek hymn which has been borrowed into the Coptic
liturgical tradition - in trying to translate it and make some sense of it
(it's not always used in the Coptic church simply because to many people, it
makes no sense).

The translation is almost complete, however, I noticed that the author is
very consciously trying to follow some set rhyme and meter. So much so that
he's employed a few Coptic words where the Greek words would be too long and
the meter wouldn't be preserved. He's also altered the grammatical endings
to preserve his rhyming scheme. I'm not really sure if he's trying to
imitate a classical Greek style or perhaps even Egyptian. Just trying to
look at the Greek first.

If anyone's familiar with classical Greek meter, can you please contact me
off-list and I'll give you the details.

Thanks very much,

Mike S
Manchester, NH - USA
<mailto: mike.szelog at citizensbank.com>

Linguistic Field(s): Ling & Literature





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