LL-L: "Etymology" LOWLANDS-L, 20.OCT.1999 (06) [E]

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From: R. F. Hahn [sassisch at yahoo.com]
Subject: Etymology

Today, under "Kinship terms," I responded to Sandy Fleming's explanation:

> > For example, Scots has words for "morning twilight" ("ochenin")
>
> Low Saxon (Low German) _Ucht_ [?UXt] (f., mostly farwestern)  Hey!  Any
> etymological link between _ochenin_ and _Ucht_?

I should have added:

Cf. Dutch _ochtend_ 'morning', Afrikaans _oggend_ 'morning'.

Westerlauwer Frisian has _moarn(tiid)_ for 'morning', and  Low Saxon (Low
German) has _Morgen_ ~ _Mörgen_ (< Old Saxon _morgan_) for the same; cf. English
_morrow_ ~ _morn_ (< Middle English _moru_ ~ _morwe_ < Old English _morgen_).

What's going on etymologically here?  Is it that the *_ocht..._ words originally
denoted  'dawn' (or 'morning twilight') and the *_morg..._ words originally
denoted 'morning' (or 'early part of the day')?  The western dialects of Low
Saxon seem to indicate that.

What's with the _-ing_ in 'morning' (Middle English _(mor(we)ning_)?  It's
supposed to be analogously extended from _evening_ (< Old English _æ^fnung_
*_æ^fenung_ < _æ^fen_ 'evening'; cf. Old Saxon _âb=and_ [b= = barred b]).  So,
is it the same morphology as e.g. _tiding_ < _tide_ (cf. German _Zeitung_ <
_Zeit_)?

It almost seems like there should be a verb *_och-_ or _ocht-_ (_och(t)en_) *'to
dawn' (?) (cf. */faar-/ 'travel' -> */faar-d/ 'trip'), or an adjective *_och_
(cf. */dik/ 'thick' -> */dik+de/ 'thickness'), hence Low Saxon _Ucht_ (<
*_Uchde_?) 'dawn', 'morning twilight'.

Any further etymological insights?

So, is Scots _ochenin_ inherent or borrowed?

Best regards,

Reinhard/Ron

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