LL-L: "Language politics" LOWLANDS-L, 20.JAN.2000 (02) [E]

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From: Robin Huggett [Rhuggett at datasource.net]
Subject: LL-L: "Language politics" LOWLANDS-L, 20.JAN.2000 (01) [E]

Robin wrote

>>Even in the early 1600's tartans usually were more identified with the
local weaver
than with a particular family. It was whatever colors and dyes he liked or
was
even able to get his hands on at the time. <<

John Wrote:
>>I thought it was a Victorian Lancashire mill-owner who created the modern
clan tartans, or is that a fable as well? The red of the Royal Stuart must
surely postdate Perkins' discovery of the aniline dyes.

John Feather johnfeather at sceptic1.freeserve.co.uk >>

Yes that is my point, that tartan patterns asscociated to specific clans as
far back as Wallace or even the early 1600's is a myth. This practice of clan
tartan patterns is fairly modern in practice. As far as dyes are concerned I
do not have the specific knowledge to share, (I believe I have heard tho that
very bright color dyes were being made in the early 1600's if you want more
info, email me off the list and I will get one of Clann's members to address
it, someone with expertise in the textile area). Myself, I want to focus on
the language aspect.

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From: john feather [johnfeather at sceptic1.freeserve.co.uk]
Subject: Language politics

Andy wrote:
>Placenames in the Lowlands are of Pictish, Brythonic (Welsh), Gaelic,
Scandinavian, Scots and more recently English origin, many are a mixture of
two or more of these.<

This list omits names derived from the tribe of Dan, who presumably spoke
Dan-ish. Consider, for example, E-din-burgh. There are places containing
"dun" or "don" named after (US "for") them all over Scotland and Ireland. I
learned this from an American radio evangelist many years ago - that's the
plain truth. I offer it now as a warning against careless etymology.

My branch of the Feather tribe comes from Keighley [pronounced "Keithley"]
in West Yorkshire, or at least most of them allegedly do. Not as exciting as
the Great Plains from where I sit, but I guess if you were living in the
middle of the GP Keighley would seem pretty exotic.

John Feather johnfeather at sceptic1.freeserve.co.uk

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