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From: Mike Adams [abrigon at yahoo.com]
Subject: Dialects of English - Australian

I have heard that Ausatralian English is much a combo of London East
End, as well as Lowland Scot. In part due to the prisons (debtors) being
cleaned out for shipment to Australia, as well as many Scots after the
last Glorious Rebellion in Scotland being shipped off for often less
than criminal acts other than possible Jacobite leanings.. But after
reading of how things were in the lowlands of Scotland after 1745 I can
see what people might have had those leanings.

I know my dielect/accent of English is basically General American with
some oddities, I grew up in Southern Idaho and Portland Oregon until age
8, but moved to Alaska in 1970, and have started to hear we here in the
Fairbanks area have an accent. Not sure, but this words were from some
natives, who have their own groups accents, obvious to persons from
outside their village, sort of like speaking English with an Athabaskan
or Inupiaq Eskimo sounds, it can be interesting to hear. The Fairbanks
might be due to a mix of local natives, as well  as where many of the
people in Fairbanks came from, such as Wisconsin and midlands of the US.
Mixed in the last few generations with TexArkansas accents..

Not sure..

Mike
Alaska

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From: Thomas [t.mcrae at uq.net.au]
Subject: Aboot

The word 'aboot' is part and parcel of  Lowland Scottish dialects and has
been for centuries. Not only used in the same way as 'about' eg "Whoat's aw
this aboot then?"but also frequently equivalent to 'around', or even 'into'
as in 'Ah'm gawn aboot the hoose' In this latter example the circumstances
at the time determine the meaning to the listener. Good earlier example is
the traditional song 'Nae Luck Aboot the Hoose' where it means 'within' or
'around'.
Naw Canadians dinnae hae a monoapoly oan this wurd, us Scoats yaised it lang
afore thum.
Regards
Tom
Tom Mc Rae
Brisbane Australia
"Oh wid some power the Giftie gie us
Tae see oorselves as ithers see us"
Robert Burns--

> previously said that I - born and bred in Britain - hear Canadians say
> something like "aboot", possibly shading into "aboat". A Canadian friend of
>
> mine agrees that he uses this pronunciation and regards it as typically
> Canadian.
>
> It may be that not all Canadians use this pronunciation, so that Ed may be
> right in a limited sense, but as far as I know nobody but Canadians use it.

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From: Thomas [t.mcrae at uq.net.au]
Subject: LL-L: "Language varieties" LOWLANDS-L, 01.MAY.2000 (02) [E]

> Tell me:  can you tell the difference between East London and
> Australian?  I have some friends from East London who were called "damned
> Australians" by a fishmonger once when they were back for a visit.
Having studied and lived in London then frequently visited it thereafter I
find little in common between any London accent and the fairly universal one
used throughout Australia. I concede elements of Cockney have developed
within the dialect from convict days( e.g.  the apalling pronunciation of
the letter H as 'Haitch' and some resudual rhyming slang such as 'Joe Blake'
for "snake" and 'Steak & Kidney' for Sidney) but the Oz accent has evolved
in quite different directions from anything in U.K. Were your friends
resident in Australia when they made the visit?

Regards
Tom
Tom Mc Rae
Brisbane Australia
"Oh wid some power the Giftie gie us
Tae see oorselves as ithers see us"
Robert Burns--

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