LL-L: "Morphophonology" LOWLANDS-L, 10.OCT.2000 (03) [E]

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From: Marco Evenhuis [evenhuis at zeelandnet.nl]
Subject: LL-L: "Morphophonology" LOWLANDS-L, 09.OCT.2000 (01) [E]

Reinhard wrote:

> The past participial prefix _e-_ in your dialect is the same as _e-_ in
> most Eastphalian Low Saxon (Low German) dialects (i.e., a group of
> dialects
> east of the Westphalian group).  Thus, e.g., _diu hest edaan_ 'thou
> hast
> done',
(...)
> There are
> also
> some dialects (in all major groups, I believe) that have _e-_ or even
> still
> _ge-_, especially frequent in the hotchpotch that is called "Eastern
> Low
> German."
>
> Regards,
> Reinhard/Ron

For your information: the past participial prefix _e_ is also the normal
form in a lot of Zeelandic and West-Flemish dialects. On the isles of
Zuid-Beveland, Schouwen, Duiveland and Goeree it's the dominant form,
Noord-Beveland uses both _e_ and _ge_, and _ge_ is used on Walcheren (except
the village of Westkapelle), Tholen, St. Philipsland and Flakkee as well as in
Zeeuws-Vlaanderen. In West Flanders, the _e_ prefix is found in the south. In
French Flanders it's the dominant form.
Some Zeelandic dialects do not even use a prefix (mostly in verbs that start
with a vowel or a h, which is silent in Zeelandic and West-Flemish), e.g. in
Westkapelle and in some Zuid-Beveland, Schouwen and Duiveland dialects: "ei
jie 't 'aod?" (did you have it?); "'k è d'r nae 'keke" (I've looked at it);
"ao 't 'ouwe toen je 't ao" (you should've kept it while you had it).

Marco

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From: R. F. Hahn [sassisch at yahoo.com]
Subject: Morphophonology

Dear Lowlanders,

In many Low Saxon (Low German) dialects, certainly in most North Saxon ones,
past participial _ge-_ has disappeared.  (It was used in older forms of the
language.)  What is interesting is that in Northern Germany speakers of these
dialects often omit _ge-_ pretty much everywhere, including in nouns; e.g.,
(_Gelück_ >) _Glück_ ~ _Lück_ 'luck', 'happiness', (_gelücken_ >) _glücken_ ~
_lücken_ 'to succeed', (/ge-bour-d-s-dag/) _Geboortsdag_ ~ _Boortsdag_ ~
_Gebuurtsdag_ ~ _Buurtsdag_ 'birthday'.  I don't know for sure if these are
cases of overcompensation or natural progression.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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