LL-L "Folklore" 2001.12.15 (02) [E]

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From: denis dujardin <dujardin at pandora.be>
Subject: LL-L "Folklore" 2001.12.14 (01) [E/German]

> From: "Dawn Work" <dawn_work at uswest.net>
> Subject: Folklore
>
> All of the "white lady" stories I've seen on Lowlands-L have been so
> grisly! :-)  I wonder if the White Lady brought to Missouri by our
> ancestors was also thus, or had been previously conflated with the Virgin
> Mary, or was perhaps one of the ubiquitous spirits that brought both weal
> and woe!
>
> Dawn
>
> >The _Korenmoimeke_ {Eastphalian, elsewhere _Kornmöhm(e)_ "corn/grain
> >aunt/woman"} or _Korenwief_ {Eastphalian, elsewhere _Kornwief_
> >"corn/grain woman"}, in some areas the _Arftenwief_ {"pea woman"},
> >usually a white-haired hag wearing tattered clothes, is a spirit that
> >inhabits fields or gardens and will abduct children that stray too far
> >off while playing or picking flowers.  {This is related to the German
> >tradition of the _Kornmuhme_ or _Roggenmuhme_, also to the Sorbian
> >tradition of the _Pr^ipol/dnica_ "midday woman," a woman in white who
> >kills people that work in fields in the blistering sun, unless they
> >manage to answer her riddles or tell her tales within a given amount of
> >time.}
>
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>
> From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Folklore
>
> Dawn,
>
> You wrote (above):
>
> > All of the "white lady" stories I've seen on Lowlands-L have been so
> > grisly! :-)
>
> Sorry ...  ;-)
>
> > I wonder if the White Lady brought to Missouri by our
> > ancestors was also thus, or had been previously conflated with the Virgin
> > Mary ...
>
> I consider that possible, coming from a Roman Catholic rather than from a
> Protestant tradition (i.e., mythological-religious mixture).
>
> This is what the Grimm Brothers had to say about a white woman
> (http://gutenberg.aol.de/grimm/sagen/g123.htm):
>
> "Die schloßweiße [sic.] Frau erscheint in Wäldern und auf Wiesen, bisweilen
> kommt sie in Pferdeställe mit brennenden Wachskerzen, kämmt und putzt die
> Pferde, und Wachstropfen fallen auf die Mähnen der Pferde. Sie soll, wann sie
> ausgehet, hell sehen, in ihrer Wohnung aber blind sein."
>
> (I am fairly sure it is supposed to be "schlohweiße" rather than
> "schloßweiße.")
>
> My translation:
>
> "The snow-white woman appears in forests and on meadows. Sometimes she enters
> horse stables with lit candles and combs and brushes the horses, and droplets
> of wax fall on the manes of the horses. She is supposed to have clear
> [second?] sight [is clairvoyant?] whenever she goes out but is supposed to be
> blind while she is inside her home."
>
> This sounds a tad less scary, doesn't it?  But what's this thing about her
> sight?
>
> Regards,
> Reinhard/Ron

In West-Flemish there is the use of the 'Witte Wuuv'n', referring to the
low white smog on meadows.

denis dujardin

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